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Hey nice job on the temp monitoring, did you try placing your prob inside the air box, wasn't sure when I read your comments, or perhaps I just missed it, I was curious as to free underhood air temps vs. Those from inside a warmed up air box?.. Thanks for your tests.... I suspect that as long as the intake air flows thru hot ducts, boxes, tubes, and into a hot throttle body, there really would not be alot of difference inside the combustion chamber.... We would have to flow the air through an iced box or tube and directly into the combustion chamber I suspect to truly gain much in a temp advantage... I think the real advantage to a CAI is a less restrictive air flow path and less restrictive filter... But hey what do I Know? Just some 50 years of Hot Rodding and drag racing under my belt... May have picked something up along the way, but this is just one old mans opinion, I welcome others
Yes the first test the thermocouple was under the air filter placed right in the middle of the air flow in from the fender. I hope that answers your question
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When I started this thread way back when, I had intended to generate some discussion on CAI's. I never expected the amount of discussion that has occurred. I must say I am pleased that those interested in buying or just the subject have taken the time to offer their insights as well as some pretty good test data.

The major flaw I see to all the CAI's whether stock or aftermarket is multi-fold:

1. The coldest air is going to be the air coming over the top of the hood but the only way to take advantage of that is buy a new hood and associated CAI.

2. Regardless of CAI, they are ALL a box and that means "turbulent" air rather than smooth air.

3. Filter restrictions are a common problem regardless of brand of CAI or filter. Some flow better than others, but are they actually worth the money? Unfortunately as opposed to drag racing vehicles, we need a filter to keep crap out of our TB's and engines.

4. I'm kind of old school on things. What that means, when I look to increase performance in one manner or another, I usually do it under the hood. When I want to change the sound, I do it with the exhaust. What I'm getting at is I see a lot of people talking about the sound the CAI makes. That's fine but it seems to me if you're going to spend $300 to get better sound, you'd be happier with the sound if you spent it on exhaust. That's where the real V8 sound comes from.

For my money, I've chosen the option of spending it on things that make RB look better/unique and in one case much more functional for me. If a CAI truly was going to give me significant mpg benefits, I'd do it in a heart beat. But so far I haven't found one that can prove its benefits. To me increasing average mpg by 1 or 2 mpg is not worth the expense. Justification for me means 5 or more mpg.

Just more of my $.02 worth here.
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Iv been hearing that only fully closed cai is considered a "cold air' intake....but on my 06 I have a fender tube that leads to my box, and I think if I get a k&n the fender tube will fit inside the heat shield next the filter. Wouldn't that make it the better choice for me, that way it gets the cold outside air plus the less restrictive box right?? Any thoughts??
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Here's the deal, what your seeking from any CAI is two fold,
1. Greater unrestricted air flow
2. The intake of cooler air

Now any system or combination of parts that improve on items 1, 2, or both should offer some overall improvment..
The factory system is always a compromise to many factors, performance, cost, multi vehicle use, sound, emissions, fitment, materials, & usability under a wide range of conditions, like weather & temp swings....
When you buy any system you are able to narrow down those perameters to one that more specifically meet your needs and wants, and ignore the others...
So any products you choose should, reduce the restrictions to the incoming air flow, by smoothing out the airs path, allow more air to enter and flow, larger components and freeer flowing air filter, and if it can also allow an intake of cooler air somehow, that's a good thing... Where you get the air from is up to you, you can run large tubes anywhere to pick up outside air, or to obtain a Ram Air/ or forced air induction effect from the vehicles forward motion, if you wish... Everything has it's positives and it's draw backs, so just remember, If one thing did everything the best, there would only be one type if system being used by everybody... This is why there are so many systems out there and so many opinions as to what may work best
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Here's the deal, what your seeking from any CAI is two fold,
1. Greater unrestricted air flow
2. The intake of cooler air

Now any system or combination of parts that improve on items 1, 2, or both should offer some overall improvment..
The factory system is always a compromise to many factors, performance, cost, multi vehicle use, sound, emissions, fitment, materials, & usability under a wide range of conditions, like weather & temp swings....
When you buy any system you are able to narrow down those perameters to one that more specifically meet your needs and wants, and ignore the others...
So any products you choose should, reduce the restrictions to the incoming air flow, by smoothing out the airs path, allow more air to enter and flow, larger components and freeer flowing air filter, and if it can also allow an intake of cooler air somehow, that's a good thing... Where you get the air from is up to you, you can run large tubes anywhere to pick up outside air, or to obtain a Ram Air/ or forced air induction effect from the vehicles forward motion, if you wish... Everything has it's positives and it's draw backs, so just remember, If one thing did everything the best, there would only be one type if system being used by everybody... This is why there are so many systems out there and so many opinions as to what may work best
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hmmm that setup looks familiar, i think my filter is bigger
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Working on that but your whole setup is A LOT bigger..and badder.
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From what I'm gathering from this thread, other forums and people I talk to, the stock air box on my 2011 HEMI is excellent and there's no need to change it. However, the ribbed tube is definitely an issue. My question is, do they make an aftermarket "smooth" replacement tube? If not, would a throttle body spacer be a good way to re-allign the air flow out if the ribbed tube and into the engine???
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The AFE kit, uses most of the stock air box, but adds a bigger free flowing filter and a smooth air tube, a nice high quality kit, where you dont have to make alot of changes, they claim an 18HP increase also...
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