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Old 09-02-2010, 09:46 PM
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hey guy, names stewart, 18years old driving since i was 15 and turning a wrench since i was 8. been driving a 1972 vw bug and even converted it into a baja bug and it's a giant work in progress. long story short, it's a project car and it's dead now. wirring is shot and im in the process of putting on a drag racing front end, stripping the car down to bare metal, welding up all the holes and then re-wiring the whole car from scratch, yes a 18year old with the guts to re-wire a 1972 car to modern specs.

but as i said a wanna be old school mechanic cause i don't have to mess with fuel injectors and OBD II sensors and all that complicated mess u guys call a wirring harness!

anyways im writting in not cause i own i dodge ram, but because i have a old baseball coach that i have known for 9years has asked me to help him out with is truck. this guy i look up to as my second father, he's been a big inspiration in my life and i don't wanna steer him in the wrong direction. i've been keeping up with how modern cars work, but i still pretty much just work on old carb tech and tune by listening. but now it's all by wire and computers and i need some quick help to get the work done right.
so ill be spending a while just roaming around and looking at past post to find out whats already been asked so i don't go over old material thats been covered every other day. yes i know the search routine, been on several forums for years. ill look around before i start posting questions

anyways im looking at CAI information. i know it brings in more air flow and it's a colder air. i also know from off roading jeeps that air above the windshield is colder then at the front by the grill. so im gonna try to talk him into a snorkel but i doubt that what he wants. so please any quick reads for home build CAI (i know some one just built a pvc pipe one, gonna read into that right after this) and weres the best place to put out the filter.
then a i know he already installed a flow master dual exhaust, so he now is going to have 2y pipes. i know if u re-build the original it will push more exhaust out of the pipes but he has 2. so im thinking if i leave the dual exhaust at the back, cut out from the y pipe to the flow masters that will leave me with 2 mufflers and 2 pipes that led into the y. so i can go get some muffler tubing and 2cheap cat's and weld them in a u have a cheap dual muffler set up with little restrictions for the exhaust gas to escape easier. only question is does the stock header need to be run into a y pipe for back pressure or is a dual exhaust set up off the stock header system a ok thing and not going to mess up the valves?

then i need to read a whole lot of information of programmers, cause a CAI and less restrictive exhaust need to be programmed to get the most performance out of the upgrades

he's looking for efficency, not so much power.
im pretty sure he doesn't want a super loud exhaust, but hey if it happens it happens.

thanks guys for the many hours of readying ahead
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Old 09-02-2010, 09:51 PM
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Welcome to the forum.

Sounds like there's some mods to be done here. First, check out the mods section. There's two or three home made systems out there that consist of a cone filter (K&N), a tube, a couple of clamps and one or two rubber elbows.

With a dual system, add a crossover pipe and yer good. It will preserve the torque and help scavenge exhaust gas efficiently.

Before we get into programmers, we are gonna need to know what year truck does he have and what engine is in it.
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Hello and welcome to the forum, glad to have you! Cool story man and since I am certainly no mechanic, I will leave the advice to the experts, plenty of knowledgeable folks here, so I'm sure you will get all the help you need! In the meantime, feel free to look around and I hope you enjoy the site!

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sorry i just updated my profile too

its a 2003 1500 4.7L

i saw a few of the thread with the DIY CAI but i wasn't a member so i couldn't see any pictures, so i registered up and figured id ask question while im searching around the forum

ok a cross over, like a x pipe?

im thinking a snorkel exhaust made out of muffler pipe and bent up by a muffler shop. when i had a jeep cherokee i was going to do this and throw a cone filter up top of it and a small hole in the bottom to let water drain out (can't vapor the motor right) and i was quoted $80 for the tubing all bent up and all u do is cut a nice circle hole in the side of ur truck. it's done all the time by the jeep guys, just don't know if my friend will go for it.
do u think thats a better set up or should i just do a similar DIY and throw the cone filter out fron like everyone else?
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updating my profile as we speak
sorry no pictures.
no more info on the mufflers he has installed, all i know is their dual muffler flow master.

he wants some better gas milage and i know a CAI to let in more air and colder air, then freeing up the exhaust to let more air out cause ur putting more in, then get it all programmed and u get the best bang for ur buck when ur talking low budget.

for now thats the idea. unless u can get better efficency out of some other mod. again im not a modern car guy, so im not too sure besides this what else is low budget that will help u get better milage. besided tire pressure and getting the lead out of ur shoe
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Yes, like an X pipe.

You are correct, the three basic best bang for the buck power mods are intake, exhaust and programmer.

I'd highly recommend the DiabloSport Predator for a programmer. Great tool, flexible tuning options, proven HP and torque gains.
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all my buddies are ford truck guys
i don't really care, im not really biased one way or another, but u kinda get the inflouence im under from all of them

it's all superchip with them. are the programmers anything like the sport bike programmers? can i plug it in, route more fuel to injectors and playing around with stuff or how do they work.
sorry if its a dumb question but i honestly have no idea and im looking around at the mod page now, so i doubt ill stumble upon that answer anytime soon

also i dunno if he wants to dyno tune it, so all programming will be done by me, and ill play it by the info off a programmer and by my ear. think i can pull that off? again i know nothing about programmers but im sure it can't be harder then trying to dial in a carb
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Yes, you plug it in, download one of the canned tunes, then do a little tweaking to set for tire size, etc...then once he has an air fuel ratio reading (usually done on a dyno) then you'll know if it's running lean. It probably is if it's a stock program. There is a menu for adding fuel on the tool.
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canned tune, i persume u got to the programmers website and download a read set map. then add fuel, take away fuel, mess with that, mess with this. u know hit and miss play it by ear if u can't get to a dyno?

so it is pretty much like a bike programmer
are they all like this, i.e. superchip and the others?
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