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I have an amazing sounding quad cab, but let's face it, not many will go the lengths that I did with a build. A set of 10s in an under-seat box is the norm for getting better thump in your cab, but the best sounding systems do have a downfire sub in the center console. I have the 13w3 in the JL stealthbox paired with a pair of ZR800 component woofers in the doors.

Ghost, I would look at picking up the 1000/1 if you're planning on running either the 10w6 or 12w6. The 10w6 and 12w6 are optimum at 400W RMS, so having the 500W peak per sub will hit hard when needed but not over power the driver since they will handle 600W. The 500/1 will be woefully underpowered for the subs and you'll regret not picking up the better amp, especially if you're planning on driving two subs.
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I was under the impression that the Slash 500/1v2 will push 500 to each sub? I know that I haven't built a system in a new vehicle and that I have never had a "expensive" amp. JL recommended that amp to me but I would rather spend the money up front and get better quality. The 1000/1 is a mono so exactly how does it split the load to 500w each sub?
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No, the 500/1 amp will put out a TOTAL of 500W RMS mono at 4ohm. The sub would push one sub quite nicely, but if you plan to run 2, then you want the 1000W. Since the 1000/1 won't handle a 1ohm load, you'll want to wire the subs together in parallel at 4ohms. Here's a great link to crutchfield's install site:
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No, the 500/1 amp will put out a TOTAL of 500W RMS mono at 4ohm. The sub would push one sub quite nicely, but if you plan to run 2, then you want the 1000W. Since the 1000/1 won't handle a 1ohm load, you'll want to wire the subs together in parallel at 4ohms. Here's a great link to crutchfield's install site:
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Ok thank you for the clarification. One more question though when I take the 1000/1 and wire it up parallel 4ohm does it split the watts? Also who's amp would be better the JX 1000/1D or the Slash 1000/1v2? There is about a $300 difference.


Also what's the easiest way to add a set of RCA's and remote wire with keeping all factory settings?
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Ok thank you for the clarification. One more question though when I take the 1000/1 and wire it up parallel 4ohm does it split the watts? Also who's amp would be better the JX 1000/1D or the Slash 1000/1v2? There is about a $300 difference.


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The JX is the lower of the 2 amps. In order to wire the JX to output 1000W RMS is to wire everything at 2ohms, but the w6 are a 4ohm driver. The JX is also only rated at 900W at 12.5V where the slash is 1000W @12.5V all the way from 1.5-4ohms. You also have the option for a 12dB or 24dB slope, an infrasonic filter (cut the sub-sonic output, which can damage some subs), and a 40-200Hzfiltered range on the slash, you don't have those on the JX and the filtered range is 50-200Hz.

Yes, in parallel the amperage will be split since in a parallel system the voltage is the same across both runs, in this case, both subs will receive 500W RMS but most likely will see ~400RMS with 500 peak, so ideal for the w6s.


Easiest way to add an RCA output is with a line-out and if it's only a temporary measure then that's the best way. For the remote wire, you can t-tap into either the OEM head unit's power wire, or just into a 12V ignition controlled wireif you only want to run the system with the ignition on like mine.
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I tapped into my cigarette lighter outlet that is only on when the truck is on... that way you dont have to worry about forgetting to turn your amp off and running your battery dead.
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The JX is the lower of the 2 amps. In order to wire the JX to output 1000W RMS is to wire everything at 2ohms, but the w6 are a 4ohm driver. The JX is also only rated at 900W at 12.5V where the slash is 1000W @12.5V all the way from 1.5-4ohms. You also have the option for a 12dB or 24dB slope, an infrasonic filter (cut the sub-sonic output, which can damage some subs), and a 40-200Hzfiltered range on the slash, you don't have those on the JX and the filtered range is 50-200Hz.

Yes, in parallel the amperage will be split since in a parallel system the voltage is the same across both runs, in this case, both subs will receive 500W RMS but most likely will see ~400RMS with 500 peak, so ideal for the w6s.


Easiest way to add an RCA output is with a line-out and if it's only a temporary measure then that's the best way. For the remote wire, you can t-tap into either the OEM head unit's power wire, or just into a 12V ignition controlled wireif you only want to run the system with the ignition on like mine.
I have been reading that the Slash 500/1v2 pushes 500 watts at 1.5-4 ohm. So if the subs are wired at 4 ohm how does it split the watts? I'm so confused. The way it reads is that a Slash 1000/1v2 would push all 1000 watts to both subs if wired parallel at 4 ohm.
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I have been reading that the Slash 500/1v2 pushes 500 watts at 1.5-4 ohm. So if the subs are wired at 4 ohm how does it split the watts? I'm so confused. The way it reads is that a Slash 1000/1v2 would push all 1000 watts to both subs if wired parallel at 4 ohm.
Yes the 500/1 pushes 500W @ 1.5-4ohms, so if the subs are wired in parallel, then each sub would see 250W of power at an equal voltage. The 1000/1 wired in parallel would give 1000W TOTAL to the system, and the subs would see 500W of power each.

Think of it this way: you have a 3/4" garden hose flowing water into a pool and it takes 10 minutes to fill the pool. If you put one of those y-fitting on the tap and attach 2x 3/4" hoses to the y-fitting, then put both hose ends into the pool, it will still take 10 minutes to fill the pool, assuming constant flow rates. The tap can only flow a finite amount of water (the amp's power output), and in the case of the y-fitting(running in parallel), it doubles the volume it can flow (the voltage), but halves the speed since there's now less pressure (the amperage).
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Yes the 500/1 pushes 500W @ 1.5-4ohms, so if the subs are wired in parallel, then each sub would see 250W of power at an equal voltage. The 1000/1 wired in parallel would give 1000W TOTAL to the system, and the subs would see 500W of power each.

Think of it this way: you have a 3/4" garden hose flowing water into a pool and it takes 10 minutes to fill the pool. If you put one of those y-fitting on the tap and attach 2x 3/4" hoses to the y-fitting, then put both hose ends into the pool, it will still take 10 minutes to fill the pool, assuming constant flow rates. The tap can only flow a finite amount of water (the amp's power output), and in the case of the y-fitting(running in parallel), it doubles the volume it can flow (the voltage), but halves the speed since there's now less pressure (the amperage).

I get it now. I'm just sorta slow lol. Damn those Slash 1000/1v2 are pricey. That just added another $500 on top of my already expensive system plans. I wish someone already had this set up I could hear so could now if it would be worth it gah. Thanks for all your help and answering all my questions. So the new plans are a 10 inch vented fox box with 2 10w6 and a jL Slash 1000/1v2 wired at 4 ohm.
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