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Old 10-16-2010, 03:52 PM
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Everyone who knows Dodge knows the Diesel Power Wagon dream. My goal is to force my 3500 dodge ram Cummins to be that dream truck. First things first I'm not rich or independently wealthy. Do not mistake my enthusiasm or financial commitment with wealth or even riches.

I bought my truck with the intention of copying an article I had seen. Actually Mopar underground built a partial prototype of a diesel Dodge Power Wagon. Right from the start I made my own changes to the truck year and some of the other looks of "My" concept. I prefer the 2003-2005 body style so I bought a silver 2004 3500 SLT. I also figured out the flares would work better with this headlight design.

Step one was to make the flares work properly. Currently the final pictures are not up but this link will take you to the thread sharing the flare work from beginning to end.

I am going to post some pictures that will help show the goal. I am not a magazine so please try to understand I have a life and sometimes progress will be slow.

What I saw

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What They did

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What I bought


My Goals:
Custom Cut out flares.
40” tires on a 3” lift maybe 6”.
18,000 Pound Hydraulic Winch Integrated into the stock front bumper.
A proper sized Cummins snorkel
Trussed front axle


My list of stuff to meet my goals:

Bushwacker cut out flares

3” or 6” Thuren performance springs
Custom Thuren Controll arms
Thuren Track bar
Thuren Sway bar end Links
Thuren rear lift shackles

Carli extreme duty Ball joints
Carli high mount steering stabilizer
Carli Differential Guard


Dynatrac’s Free-Spin Heavy Duty Hub Conversion Kit


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Super Swamper Sx, Iroks or Nitto Mall crawler mud grappler. The original plan was for the Ground Hawgs but they were too wide. This decision is going to shape the rest of the truck. I will start the thread with the tire problem.


I have new flares (not finished yet) that will add 5 inches of width. The tires must fill the flares (width) or they will not look good. I don’t mind if it’s only the bulge of the tire that fills the void. More than likely, I will be using a rim offset to make the difference. I don’t live where it snows much but when it does snow it gets deep fast, and it’s wet.

This year we are supposed to have a chance at a big dump of snow.

The problem is the tire options in the 40” range that is also at least a D rated tire. I am currently shooting for the E load rating.

I wanted the Super Swamper LTB 40: Load Rated way too low.

Then I wanted the Super Swamper SX the 42 is the closest to the 40” size, but it’s also too low of a load rating. The 43 SX is good but that would require a bigger lift. I would prefer to keep the lift at 3”. If they only made a 40” E rated SX for the 17” rim. It would need more sipes as well.

So now I’m into the not so deep tread options.

Irok… I will have to go 39.5 if I want to use a Irok. Problem is that’s not a 40” tire. No point buying a 39.5 after all this messing around (It will be over 2k worth of body work and flare modification….for a 39.5?) The 41 might work but its tread is even lower in depth.

Nitto Mall crawler mud grappler…I don’t like this tire because I always see the mall crawlers using it. It unfortunately is the closest to what I need. Great load rating and a good size. Offroad??? I checked around and didn’t find many “real” reviews. Ill be playing in deep wet snow. A lot of questions at this point???


Pitt bull tires: The same size issue of the Swamper SX.

Truck use… I will load it to the max occasionally and it will be better to have the truck bed where I can reach it. I will be buying a 12 foot trailer but I don’t want to have to use a 12 foot trailer every time I need to move something.


I am very interested in your opinions.
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I have followed your fender work and everything seems to be coming out very good. You still got a lota' work ahead of ya though. I get what you are saying with the Nitto's, but if it's what you need and there aren't many other options then you might have to go with them. I can't really help you too much, but I have to say you're truck is going to be awesome! haha, best of luck.
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That sounds like a great project truck man! I think if the Nitto's are the closest to what you need then go for it. I took a quick look and the tires look pretty good.
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If It was me given the tire options, Id go for Pit Bull Rockers Radial. Id steer clear of Mud grapplers. A while ago when I was in the market for new tires, I called Nitto about the treadlife of the Mud Grapplers (and Dune Grapplers). The person I spoke to told me that Mud grapplers wont last long on pavement, maybe 25,000 miles. That kinda tread will wear quick, plus Nitto said they had switched to a softer rubber compound. They might look good (to you maybe) but these tires are for....well ...mud.
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If It was me given the tire options, Id go for Pit Bull Rockers Radial. Id steer clear of Mud grapplers. A while ago when I was in the market for new tires, I called Nitto about the treadlife of the Mud Grapplers (and Dune Grapplers). The person I spoke to told me that Mud grapplers wont last long on pavement, maybe 25,000 miles. That kinda tread will wear quick, plus Nitto said they had switched to a softer rubber compound. They might look good (to you maybe) but these tires are for....well ...mud.
That was my feeling as well. I was also looking at the creepy crawler and it has the same soft compound. Iroks also tend to wear fast on the road. Although I know what is practical I do plan to get tires that "look" cool and function well offroad. This truck will be going offroad quite a bit. I can afford the grappler at 500 a pop...but I would rather be going through swampers at 400. Creepy crawlers go for 700. I know my choice of tire is I am definitly not going for practical. The Pitbull tire might work out. http://pitbulltires.com/downloads/PBSPEC2.pdf I was looking at the Rocker 41.5X13.50R17LT or 41.5X1350R20LT radial version. They have no stats on the pdf so I will call on monday. I value your opinion and experience, Thank you.
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Ok so I decided on the mud grappler. This is only becasue the radial irok will take longer to arrive.

This truck did ok with the grappler in the snow.


Offset with grappler on a dodge.


A dodge with 38" mud grapplers playing in mild mud.
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