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Old 04-14-2015, 07:32 PM
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Read some alarming news that GM 2500 and 3500 trucks 07-13 are experiencing cracks in the frame. Seems to be happening with snow plows but why? Is this something we need to worry about?
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Yeah, they ended up reinforcing the frame up front on the newer ones, they weren't up to the stress of a plow. Older Chevies didn't do it either, its just that generation.

I was actually watching a show the other day where a guy was talking about how anybody can build something strong, but an engineer is required to build something that is strong enough to do its job, yet do it efficiently in order to meet weight, space, etc... requirements. I thought it was a pretty good quote. I guess GM's engineers got a little too close to the limit of strength and weight.

When I read the title of this thread I thought at first that you were talking about some issue with Rams' frames cracking that I hadn't heard about-made me worried for a second. I thought the GM frame cracking thing was fairly common knowledge, and I haven't lived anywhere it snowed regularly since 1999.

No issues that I've seen or heard of with Ford or Ram, at least with the frame cracking, obviously with a Ford you'll have other issues...
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I was actually watching a show the other day where a guy was talking about how anybody can build something strong, but an engineer is required to build something that is strong enough to do its job, yet do it efficiently in order to meet weight, space, etc... requirements. I thought it was a pretty good quote.
Dont beleive everything you hear!! 1st engineering failed then R&D failed testing. The fact that it went on for multipule years shows how they (GM) care for their product. Look at the recalls/congressional hearings and thats how they care about their consumer.

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Yeah, they ended up reinforcing the frame up front on the newer ones, they weren't up to the stress of a plow. Older Chevies didn't do it either, its just that generation.

I was actually watching a show the other day where a guy was talking about how anybody can build something strong, but an engineer is required to build something that is strong enough to do its job, yet do it efficiently in order to meet weight, space, etc... requirements. I thought it was a pretty good quote. I guess GM's engineers got a little too close to the limit of strength and weight.

When I read the title of this thread I thought at first that you were talking about some issue with Rams' frames cracking that I hadn't heard about-made me worried for a second. I thought the GM frame cracking thing was fairly common knowledge, and I haven't lived anywhere it snowed regularly since 1999.

No issues that I've seen or heard of with Ford or Ram, at least with the frame cracking, obviously with a Ford you'll have other issues...
This almost had me on the ground checking my frame....
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Dont beleive everything you hear!! 1st engineering failed then R&D failed testing. The fact that it went on for multipule years shows how they (GM) care for their product. Look at the recalls/congressional hearings and thats how they care about their consumer.

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I mean it is a Chevy (lookin at you bubba)

Not sure why you think this would in any way affect your Ram
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This is nothing compared to what's is in the pipe ready to explode

'13 through '15 Silverado's,Tahoe's & Suburban's on the 1500 platform
have a very nasty INHERENT VIBRATION Issue, That GM just ignores

This is what lead me to my Ram

GM basically *#@*^! me over on my 2014 Silverado, stating it was the
" Kindness of them " to buy back a truck that was " Operating in NORMAL
guidelines " yeah right, if they had to pay for a truck that vibrates
you right out of the cab between 62 & 75 mph with less then 300 miles
and then they spend 4mos. and 1,100 miles and are not able to correct it
or give any type of an explanation

So if by chance you have friends that are even
considering a late model Sliverado or Sierra have them click
on the links below and have them
start from the very first post

GM-Trucks.com
http://www.gm-trucks.com/forums/topi...ration-issues/

GM Inside News.com
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ration-174585/

I was very lucky that I had a dealers background, and basically had the
trump card GM was not expecting. Sadly there will be many that will fall
victims of this latest ploy by GM to distort the facts and make the buyer
again as like the American tax payer pay the bill with no accountability
being back by a government and unions that have so much more to loose
then the trust and respect of the American buyer
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So we all remember the infamous video of the Ferd vs Ram on the ramps to check "frame-twist". How will that play out with the new aluminum bodies? I project "wrinkles" that dont come out after the ramp. Steel has a "memory", aluminum works different. what do you think?
Thunder, I think I read that same article, very interesting.
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So we all remember the infamous video of the Ferd vs Ram on the ramps to check "frame-twist". How will that play out with the new aluminum bodies? I project "wrinkles" that dont come out after the ramp. Steel has a "memory", aluminum works different. what do you think?
Thunder, I think I read that same article, very interesting.
I want to see that test now......
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What does a chevy have to do with RAM?
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I had a 1977 chevy 3/4 ton with 36" tires where the frame cracked at the steering box mount. Was a common problem on the older trucks if you put bigger than stock tires on them. I guess some things don't change.
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