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Old 12-05-2010, 11:44 AM
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On rear wheel drive, or four wheel drive, driver rear goes to passenger front, passenger front goes to passenger rear, passenger rear goes to driver front, driver front goes to driver rear. You are basically crossing the rears and moving the fronts back. Front wheel drive cars are the exact opposite...cross the fronts to the back and move the backs straight forward.

The only time you only go front to back on the same side, is as stated above, when you have directional tread, which we do not. One thing about rotating tires...if a wear pattern is started, say from the front end out of alignment, the wear will continue even if it is moved to another location. It may slow down, but it will continue to wear the same as before you moved it.
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Thanks all for the info on tire rotation pattern. The last question I have is weather the Goodyear Wrangler HP P275-60R20 tires are directional. I could not find anything definitive even on the Goodyear web site or in any other on line references. I know that directional tires cannot be cross rotated.
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Those tires aren't directional but I agree, front to back only with no crossing over.
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I believe there will be an arrow on the sidewall of directional tires to show the direction of rotation.
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Here you go, straight from the owner's manual. Of course it would be completely opposite of what I said, but here it is:
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So, how much is your dealership charging you for this? I am just heading in for an oil change and they said it's time to rotate
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I will agree with every one else, front to rear!

Working in a tire shop that is the only way we do our rotations, everyone seems to have a different opinion...mostly old timers with the whole cross pattern, many of the guys i work with argue that crossing is bad for radial tires as the belts wear in going one direction so with just crossing them over the tire is essentially rolling against itself and is more prone to seperation....with bias tires like back in the day crossing during rotation was fine!
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My dealership charges $19.95 USD to rotate the tires
Because the last time that they did a rotation, it shook the whole truck while highway driving, they could NOT fix it to my satisfaction.
I took it to a tire shop & had then switch them back & no more shaking. No charge, because i use them for 3 other vehicles
This time i told the dealer to pull off ALL the weights & balance them from scratch, they did, new weights were used & i saw that Every weight placement had moved at least 3 inches. They charged me for the weights $49.95 & $6.00 Labor.
There is no shake at all now & i can feel the road & the truck through the steering wheel again
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I rotate and balance the tires every oil change. I move the front tires straight back and cross rotate the rears. I notice that the rear tires have an odd feather pattern to them, but I think that has more to do with all these new black marks all over the nieghborhood.
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Well, this is the last i will post to this thread
When steel belted radials first came out, the types of compound in the tire some how allowed the steel belts to form a shape pattern & if the tire was rotated to the opposite side of the vehicle, the steel belts would change the pattern & the steel belts would separate especially in the side walls.
todays rubber compounds have changed & supposedly the steel belts stay in place, but, tire shops still believe in doing rotations like they were taught, including my dealership & Discount Tire

Tire Rack apparently believes differently, they wrote this
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=43
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