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Old 12-10-2010, 11:24 PM
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I hate dings and dents, I'm one of those types who'll agonize over a parking spot out of fear some schmuck will leave a mark.

But at year 1+ with my Ram, it has all sorts of wavy indents around all the door handles from people simply opening doors. On the passenger doorhandle, someone actually left a fingertip ding - they pushed against the door with their finger while they opened the handle...pathetic!

This is the softest metal in the over one dozen cars I've owned!! It's almost like Chrysler should give us a coupon for bodyshop repairs!

Anyone else feel the same way?

Other than this, I love the truck.
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I think you'll find that kind of problem across all manufacturers. Every year the safety standards get more strict as well as emissions and fuel efficiency.

Safety wise the metal is made to crumple thus absorbing the majority of the impact instead of transferring it to the occupants.
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I think you'll find that kind of problem across all manufacturers. Every year the safety standards get more strict as well as emissions and fuel efficiency.

Safety wise the metal is made to crumple thus absorbing the majority of the impact instead of transferring it to the occupants.
Exactly. It's all about safety.
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FWIW, I have noticed the same wavy metal around the door handles, door edges, etc and thought that if I posted about it here, I'd be run out of town for being a crackpot. But it's definitely there and not your imagination.
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I think you'll find that kind of problem across all manufacturers. Every year the safety standards get more strict as well as emissions and fuel efficiency.

Safety wise the metal is made to crumple thus absorbing the majority of the impact instead of transferring it to the occupants.

I see where you're trying to go, I remember being able to walk on the hood of my '76 Grand Prix. That said, my 2011 BMW 128i Cab or my 2005 Mazda RX8 doesn't have metal anywhere near this soft. I don't see a reason for it.

That and the poor headlights.

That aside, best truck out there IMO.
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Wavy metal around the handles / edges is a manufacturing thing. Its not Ram specific at all. Most vehicles (large ones especially) are wavy around handles and other openings as well as the door edges. Its from the presses that pound out the panels. I work in a body shop and these are no better or worse than anything else. There is no way someone dented a door with a finger tip though. It was likely something in their hand while pushing the door or bumping into it.
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I see this across all vehicle lines. Thinner metal to save weight, use of aluminum vs. steel for body panels like hoods, trunks and roofs, basic "decontenting" to save on costs.

I don't think anyone is a crackpot for noticing. Complaining won't do any good, though. We all have to deal with it, which sucks.
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Welcome to the modern world. That's the way they are all being made. One question I must ask is, are you the type that likes to park as close as possible to the store entrance? I am the type that will park out at the extreme end of the parking lot and have maintained my 97 with no dings. Having said that, let me add that I am the type that parks at the extreme end of the parking lot, and gets really pissed off when I come out and find some idiot decided to park next to me when the entire parking lot is completely empty! What the heck is that all about? Why?! Do they thing my truck is lonely or something? Sheeese! It's like they seek me out!
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Don't think we can explain it away as "they're all the same nowadays", my wife's 2011 128i or my 2005 RX8 shows a much stronger metal gauge.

I read somewhere that most modern cars are using 20 gauge (the higher the gauge the thinner the metal), something like the bed might use 16. But I bet the Ram is on the thin side of things, likely to keep weight down.
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I don't think so. I see approx 35 cars through our shop a week we do a local Chrysler dealers work so we do a fair number of Rams. The Ram is no better or worse than average metal thickness / durability than anything else of similar build on the market. Mercedes / BMW not included in that. The curves of a RX8 could be the reason you are seeing it as stronger. Compound curves make the metal very rigid.
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