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Old 01-01-2011, 10:54 PM
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All right well I finally decided that a quart of oil every 500 miles was enough. Along with pining and loss of a lot of power I decided to do the plenum plate gasket fix. I ended up making my own plate out of a sheet of aluminum (can't remember the thickness but its a little thicker than the original one). there was a quarter inch of oil pooled at the bottom of intake just looking through the throttle body.

I used OEM Mopar Gaskets. Also installed all new vacuum lines, PCV valve, plugs, wires, distributor cap and rotor. Also used all new bolts for the plate and manifold.

While I had the accessory bracket off and manifold I spray painted them flat black looks a lot better.

The project took about three hours to do. This is the eighth one I have done. The first time I did this it took 10 hours. Overall the truck runs so much better. Before she would chug real bad at some points and had a lack of power. Also no longer smoke like a diesel at WOT.

If you are looking into doing this project and need any help just send me a message or post here and i can help you out.

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bottom of the intake



my little stool


End: don't know why but these pictures don't show how good the paint looks.


I will get a few more tomorrow when it is lighter out with it all together my batteries ran out.
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Looks like you got it under control . Nice job taking the photos .
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Looks like you got it under control . Nice job taking the photos .
haha yah we will see within the next few oil changes. truck feels so much better.
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Another thing you may want to think about , I know there isn't a catch can made specifically for our engines , but look around . Theres plenty of different styles made and I'm sure with some thinking you can come up with something that'll fit . I muself am trying to come up with something but at the present time my truck is out of commision .
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yah i have been throwing around the idea but not sure exactly how to do it still drawing up some ideas. i don't get much time with two jobs and college. I have so many little projects half done waiting for install and finishing but ones such as this that are more important get done first when i have a free day.
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Not that hard guys. I got the idea on how to make an inexpensive catch can from a Mustang forum. I haven't made it yet since I don't know if the idiot smog inspectors would give me any hassles here but it's relatively simple. Just get a micro power tool air line filter, a few feet of oil resistant automotive lines, some small clamps and a couple of fittings for the end of the filter. You can get all the stuff for around $30 and the micro filters are available at The Depot or Lowes. Then just mount it any place you like.
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im new to the dodge trucks and ive never torn down a dodge engine because nothings ever happened to any of the ones i know mine is doing fine but its a little on the sluggish side, it has 258,000 miles on it. what is it a plate bolted to the bottom of the intake? what does it do and why does your truck smoke when you get oil built up there? and i do know that when i first got my truck it puffed a little smoke on startup.
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The plenum on these trucks is a two part system. It has the tope part that you see and a plate closing up the bottom. There is a gasket between these two. When the gasket goes bad due to expansion and contraction of the two dissimilar metals you start sucking oil into your combustion. That is why it chugs and you loose oil. The oil is not meant to be going into your intake. In your case with that many miles its most likely just a tired engine. The plenum might or might not be a problem on yours since I don't know it's history.
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I have no idea why they put that plate there to be honest.

The reason it smokes is that it is burning that oil that has collected in the intake that has been sucked in through the blown gasket.

The reason that this gasket goes bad is that the intake is cast aluminum and the pan is steel. That is why i made an aluminum pan so that the gasket won't rip due to the different rates of expansion by the different metals.

to be honest at 258,000 it probubly isn't worth doing in unless you are going to do a total rebuild.

Some of the magnums just never got this disease for a reason that god only knows.

The way to tell is to pull off your intake and open the throttle body and look inside and see if there is a wet look at the bottom.

The reason that your may smoke is the rings may be going bad. mine would only smoke at wide open throttle when it would suck in alot of oil. There are many things that could make it smoke at startup.
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