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I have a new 2011 Laramie 4x4. When I am in 4H or 4L the front wheels will not pull hard enough to spin the front tires. The back will spin like crazy but the front barely pull. Is this common or do I have a problem. It severley limits offroad capability. Please help.
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I can't say I've seen too many front tires spinning like the rears on many trucks. I wonder if the transfer case has something to do with it, but I'll wait for some others to chime in and see what they say.
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Its the gearing. 4wd Hi (lock) on 4th gens is 30-70. 30% power to the front, 70% to the rear. move it over to 4Low, and it goes to 50-50. a stock 4wd gen 4 will spin the front tires, mine does it all the time, but you have to mash it, and turn off the ESP. If you dont turn off the ESP it will not spin the tires AT ALL.
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Mine will not spin the front tires in 4HI or 4LO. It really sucks for off road use like this. I think i must have a problem. I can tell they are pulling a little but not much. Surely Dodge did not design them like this. I can't go thru anything, much less pull something off road. If I put the hammer down if 4hi or 4lo i want all four tires pulling and slinging mud, etc. Otherwise i have wasted my money on this truck. I'm pissed about it. Going to dealer asap.
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When I turn the traction control off in 4H mine will spin when I get on it, the traction control automatically turns off when I switch to 4L and they spin as much as the rear. If it's not working like that I would say you need to speak with your dealer.

Does your truck have and AWD option? If your accidentally switching to AWD this would explain your problem.
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Which transfer case do you have?
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I have the AWD option. It will not spin even if I turn the esp off. I am going to take it by the dealer asap.
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What you're experiencing sounds like normal operation for the BW 44-44 case. What about in the 4 Lock position? The following is the operation description directly from Chrysler.

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Depending on traction conditions, the DTCM will modulate the electromagnetic clutch assembly to vary the amount of torque applied to the front axle. Torque is transmitted through the input shaft to the clutch and drive sprocket assembly, and is transferred directly to the rear propeller shaft, and to the output shaft and front propeller shaft by the drive chain. The oil pump circulates gear lube throughout the case to provide clutch cooling.
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OK. I went to the dealer today and they said the clutches are gone in the transfer case. That is why the front tires are not pulling. We lifted the truck and were able to hold the front tires and keep them from turning while in 4x4 mode. That is how little they are pulling. They are going to replace the clutches and DTCM. They could not explain why it happened. It showed an overheat code, but no reason why. I have not done anything to abuse the transfer case and as best I can remember it was like this from day one. It now has 11K miles on it. He did say that they were having a hard time locating the fluid it calls for and that it is conceivable that the wrong transfer case fluid was put it at the factory causing the clutches to fail. This is only speculation right now, but they will be able to tell after they tear into it. Also, there is a recall on the rear axles on 2011 Rams. They need additive to prevent overheating.
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That's pretty bizzare; I've never seen a failure with those cases. The recall you speak of is for some of the diffs that weren't completely filled and the additive is for the clutches in the LSD models, not for cooling.
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