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Hey guys. I've been a fanatic about cleaning my trucks since before I even started driving, but there's a few things I've read on here that I'd like a little more expanation about. First of all, a few of you talked about stripping wax with a dish soap before waxing again. Why? So dish soap is HORRIBLE to wash your truck in?
Second, I just got my hood re-painted. It might not be noticeable to anyone else, but to me, the hood looks better than the rest of my truck now. I noticed how water beaded up on it compared to the fenders last night when I stopped to spray it off. How would I go about buffing/waxing/polishing or whatever I need to do? Thanks so much for your info!
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I'm sure someone with more experience will chime in...But my advise would be one of the Meguaiars total detailing kits...Wash/dry/clay bar/wax then wax again...The instructions will give you everything you need to know...

Also, might want to take your truck to a place that will buff out everything BUT your hood to bring out the origanl color and take out small scratchs etc....Then do the above...Hope it helps a little...
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Hey guys. I've been a fanatic about cleaning my trucks since before I even started driving, but there's a few things I've read on here that I'd like a little more expanation about. First of all, a few of you talked about stripping wax with a dish soap before waxing again. Why? So dish soap is HORRIBLE to wash your truck in?
Dish soap contains detergents which will remove wax. When you start to detail your vehicle, if it is just a fresh coat of wax or even an extensive correction, it is advantageous to have no waxes left on the paint. Dish soap, more specifically Dawn (which is more effective than most), removes the waxes and oils from the paint's surface, leaving a clean surface for the wax to adhere too.

So is dish soap horrible to wash your car with? No, it will clean the surface very well; however, if you have any wax or sealant on your car, it will remove it and thus, you just waxed your vehicle for nothing. For routine washes, you need to use a car-wash soap that will not remove the wax.

Some great washes that are over the counter include Meguiars Gold Class, and Duragloss 901/902. Online you can find numerous other washes too.

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Second, I just got my hood re-painted. It might not be noticeable to anyone else, but to me, the hood looks better than the rest of my truck now. I noticed how water beaded up on it compared to the fenders last night when I stopped to spray it off. How would I go about buffing/waxing/polishing or whatever I need to do? Thanks so much for your info!
Your hood beads better because it probably is not scratched like the rest of your truck. I'm not saying you can see any of the scratches I am referring too as they are no more than .1 micron deep, but everytime you wash your car you are instilling extremely small marring on your paint, and water catches theses small scratches. On a newly painted surface, it is just like the paint is freshly waxed. The surface is completely smooth, and water beads up.

Are you looking to polish your paint by hand or machine?
Are you looking for a good wax to use or do you have one?

Just let us know, I'll be happy to help
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Why did the hood need repainting ?
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Dish soap is a degreaser, and a surprisingly strong one for doing no damage. Some people use it tro strip the old wax off before applying new wax just so there's a uniform layer. I personally don't use dish soap, but I will clay bar the hell out of the truck before I start waxing it again every spring. The bar removes the wax as well as any particulates.

If you're not happy with how everything is beading, you could definately look at getting the paint polished/glazed before you begin waxing again. This'll get rid of a lot of the small clear-coat scratches/swirls. If you want to do it yourself, you can pick up a random orbit polisher, several microfiber pads, a cutting polish, and a good quality wax. Wash the truck, claybar it to remove any deposits, rinse again, then polish wish the cutting compound, followed by several coats of wax.
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I use a PC 7424 when I can, but alot of the time I end up doing it by hand.

I wash with dawn, then clay with dawn/water 30/70 mix as a lube, then I wash again, then polish, glaze, wax and seal.
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what kind of cutting polish are you talking about? Is this like a rubbing compound? So what your saying is it is useless to apply 4-5 coats of wax throughout the summer without washing it with something to strip the old off first?
I've been using the once a year polish (can't remember who makes it), it works great but what is the proper way to use it? What I've been reading on here lately has me totally questioning what I've been doing for years! No doubt it has worked, but maybe it could've been better!
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what kind of cutting polish are you talking about? Is this like a rubbing compound? So what your saying is it is useless to apply 4-5 coats of wax throughout the summer without washing it with something to strip the old off first?
I've been using the once a year polish (can't remember who makes it), it works great but what is the proper way to use it? What I've been reading on here lately has me totally questioning what I've been doing for years! No doubt it has worked, but maybe it could've been better!
A cutting polish just refers to a polish that actually corrects the paint. A rubbing compound is way too harsh to use by itself. There are a ton of polishes you can use, but the word polish implies using an abrasive to remove a little clear coat and level the paint. Some waxes call themselves polishes, but in reality, they do nothing to polish the paint. Some over the counter polishes would be Meguiars ScratchX, SwirlX, Ultimate Compound, etc.

It is not useless to apply wax without stripping the surface, but for your first wax of the year, it would definitely benefit the longevity of the wax for you to strip it. Are you using NuFinish polish? I know there are a few that claim to be once a year, and I can promise you that no wax will last a year under normal circumstances.

Once you apply the wax, chances are you will not be able to layer it for a number of reasons. Many cheaper waxes, especially those that are over the counter contain mild cleaning agents. If you wax your vehicles, and go back in a week to re-wax it, you are removing the first coat of wax and replacing it with another. Most waxes will struggle to adhere to another wax on a molecular level as well. So rewaxing should occur when you notice the current coat of wax either loosing slickness or its ability to protect. Then you could rewax it without stripping the paint first as the fresh coat will more than likely adhere to the paint effectively, or you could wash it with Dawn and start over.
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so when it starts to warm up, a good idea would be to:

wash with dawn, polish with meguiar's swirl/scratchX (think I have one of those), then several coats of wax.

What kind of wax would you guys recommend? Liquid wax or paste/solid wax? this is something i've wondered about for a long time
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This is a very informative thread. I'm going track for when spring comes.
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