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Old 01-10-2011, 11:13 PM
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I have a 08 Ram 1500 Big Horn 5.7L and am trying to find the tow capacity with a gooseneck hitch. The dealer and everyone I talk to can only give me the basic tow rating with the class IV hitch from the factory. Looking to tow a camper with a dry weight of 8300 lbs, add water and gear maybe 9500 lbs? Am I asking to much from my truck?
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You can try going to http://www.ramtrucks.com and click on "body builder's guide". I tried to find the towing info, but I couldn't. Maybe you'll have better luck.
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I looked in the owner's manual

I looked in the service manual.

I looked at dodge.com/towing.

I found no specific info except at dodge.com/towing they list a towing max of 10,250 for a 4X4 Hemi which I have to assume is a fifth wheel/gooseneck max towing capacity.

I am not sure why this info is so hard to get.
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Here's some info from the body builder's guide. With the minimal info on your Ram that I have, I can't give you any more accurate data. You may be able to get more info at the link I gave earlier and go through the charts based on how your truck is set up.

TOWING MATH
The towing charts located in the “Base Weights / GCW /
Payload” section of each vehicle in the 2008 Body
Builder’s Guide shows
�� Model
�� Engine
�� Transmission
�� Axle ratio
�� GVWR
�� Payload
�� Front and rear curb weight
�� Front and rear GAWR
�� GCWR
�� Max allowable trailer weight
To use the towing charts, first calculate the GCW of the
towing vehicle and GTW of trailer to make sure that
everything falls within the GCWR listed. This is done by
adding the GVW to the gross trailer weight. Next,
calculate the total weight to be towed. This includes any
cargo or fluids. The tongue weight must also be
determined.
The tongue weight should be more than 10 percent and
less than 15 percent of the maximum trailer weight. The
King Pin weight should be more than 15 percent and less
than 25 percent of the maximum trailer weight.
Note: The Maximum Trailer Weight and Payload in the
Towing Tables are based on one driver weighing 150 lbs.
If there is greater payload (passengers, cargo, vehicle
options, accessories, and upfit equipment), it must be
included in vehicle and/or trailer weight calculation.
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I would also call Ram and provide your VIN. They should be able to tell you the 5th wheel capcity of your truck. I think the '10s/11s have about a 10k lb capacity so your numbers look about right given you have an '08. Keep in mind a gooseneck should be factored into your total weight load as they can weight upwards of 500 lbs or more. Definitely get the numbers for your truck so you do not tow above capacity. Also, if you can, check out enhancing your load weights by looking into rear Timbrens or helper springs - I think '08s have rear leaf springs (you can learn all about Timbrens and other suspension enhancements if you are new to towing by searching this forum and going to any rv website - there are a ton of them).

Hope you find what you need.
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I was looking at the 2011 Laramie with the tow package with 3:92 with a quadcab it's 10,300, your payload I think is only 1650 so with a goose neck or a fithwheel trailer your not supposes to exceed these. I tow a 30' travel trailer with my 08 5.7 3:92 gear and it weighs in that 10K area and have zero issue's except the gas MPGs LOL. On flat ground I get anywhere from 9 to 11 MPG but pulling over the blue ridge mountains or out west 5 to 7 MPG.
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The truck is a quad cab w/20 in rims, 3.92 gears. I have looked at the body builders page and haven't found anything stating 5th wheel/gooseneck ratings.I know the pin weight wont exceed the payload rating. I guess as long as I don't exceed the GCWR I'm ok or is it different w/a gooseneck? Also noticed that the 20 in rims brings down the rating. Should I switch to 17's?
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I would sugguest with 17" rims.. you should be able check out rims rating for 17", 20" for difference.
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By the way. I know I did a stupid thing. I have pulled 5 ton behind included Trailer and Skid Steer. With my 4.7 Magnum, 5spd transmission with K&N Filter and 3inch pipe dual, 3.92 ratio Axle and not including Superchip (Programmer) But it did pretty good job tho. I"m pretty sure it did suck up gas real bad. probably 5 to 8 MPG. Otherwise I was on the hill and i got clutch thats skipping due over loading. I will have to upgrade my clutch later on. I know I did over limit weighting. But I had to do what I had to do LOL. It'll be aiight. But I'm saying your Hemi 5.7 probably do okay for sure but if you doing a long travel, you may need to keep under GWR down or you ain't going no where if you get a caught. Lol. I would suggest install one of Airbag 5000LBS. You can get it from JcWhitney.com They are pretty cheap. I must warn you. When you looking this website you may not see Ram 1500 on the list but 2500 but I gurantee it will fit your 1500. Otherwise you can get Timbrens, either of those you prefer. You could check it out website Timbrens.com. They both are pretty cheap too. Said around $250.
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Your GCWR will not change with a Fith/gooseneck
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