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Old 08-09-2016, 07:29 PM
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Default Optimal position to siphon Transmission fluid from dipstick tube

Hi all,

I have 67k miles and wanted to do a "poor mans trans fluid change". I don't do any towing and am still inside the recommendation of 100k/10years, so a full pan drop doesn't yet seem necessary.

What's the optimal incline/decline or slant position to get the most fluid of the dipstick tube? Said another way, where in the pan does the dipstick tube terminate?

BTW, I plan to do about 3 rounds of this to get the majority of the fluid out.

I did the first round today and got out exactly 3 quarts on a slight decline position.
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Personally, I always want to look at the condition of the magnet. I run a MagHytec deep pan for the 68RE, holds massive amounts of ATF+4 and finned aluminum. But, I would think level would be fine. If the fluid looks anything but mint, I'd run her a few miles and pump out again.
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Definitely, it's better to pull the pan and clean everything, but, I'm looking to do only the recommended maintenance to keep the lifetime warranty I have, unless it's easy to do (the siphoning method falls into the easy category) and will improve performance or reduce the changes of getting stuck on the side of the road. Since it's not due until 100k miles according to the manual, I still am golden.

I think with 67k miles, the fluid will not be mint no matter how you drive, it will be slightly browned, but as long as the level is normal and there's no abnormal odor or behavior, I don't think it's necessary to pull the pan given that I'm only 67% of the way into the maintenance schedule.
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If memory serves your best position would actually be level. The stick comes out to the middle or very slightly rearward of center.
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Thanks. That helps.

I'll do another round of siphoning and let it go until 100k miles at which time I'll do the full service and drop the pan.
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just had the dealer flush mine and change the filters at 53000 miles. all looked good.
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I'd rather drain and refill with a filter change than siphon out the dipstick tube and refill. Seems half a**ed to me.
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I'd rather drain and refill with a filter change than siphon out the dipstick tube and refill. Seems half a**ed to me.

I don't think it's half-a**ed at all. You get out the same amount of fluid with both approaches, which is only a fraction of the total fluid. You can easily do the siphoning twice (with a small drive in between) and get out more fluid that you would with a full pan drop.

The maintenance internal for the fluid for non-heavy duty is 100k. Once the truck has 100k, I will drop the pan and change the filter, but the siphoning approach (with 2 attempts) will change out more fluid, it's easy to do. I am not advocating skipping the pan drop and filter change, but I have not yet come close to the 100k specified interval, so I feel this change is good and pro-active.

Plus, I actually got out some gunk with the siphoning approach... not as much as I would get obviously with a full pan drop, but it does pull out some stuff.
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I don't think it's half-a**ed at all. You get out the same amount of fluid with both approaches, which is only a fraction of the total fluid. You can easily do the siphoning twice (with a small drive in between) and get out more fluid that you would with a full pan drop.

The maintenance internal for the fluid for non-heavy duty is 100k. Once the truck has 100k, I will drop the pan and change the filter, but the siphoning approach (with 2 attempts) will change out more fluid, it's easy to do. I am not advocating skipping the pan drop and filter change, but I have not yet come close to the 100k specified interval, so I feel this change is good and pro-active.

Plus, I actually got out some gunk with the siphoning approach... not as much as I would get obviously with a full pan drop, but it does pull out some stuff.
Why siphon? I uderstand not wanting to drop the pan... is there no drain plug on a 09?
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Why siphon? I uderstand not wanting to drop the pan... is there no drain plug on a 09?
Not sure if you're being serious.. there's no drain plug and the amount of time and work required for a pan drop is far more than a siphon. I can siphon out the fluid in 5 minutes without even getting under the truck. Getting the car up high enough to drop the pan, deal with the spilled fluid, clean and apply a new gasket is obviously a lot more work.

IMO, ifmyiu siphon out the fluid you get the same amount of fluid and if you keep it clean the filter will easily last 100k miles.
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