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Old 02-08-2011, 08:28 PM
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I just put a new caliper in a buddy's 98 3500 . Old one had seized and they disconnected it and tied it to a-arm to limp home (they made it okay). Today I replaced it and tried the basic bleeding of both front calipers with little fluid or bubble flow.

I have functioning rear brakes. Is there any particular procedure that needs done differently on these trucks than on my old chevy and fords? Any tips to help me along? I follow links just fine...

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Does it have front ABS? If so, the ABS controller may be limiting the amount of fluid coming out. Make sure you have everything buttoned up and put back together then open the bleeder just a crack (enough to let the air out) and pump it till it bleed properly. That's the way I have done it with no problems. This way once the fluid runs you should be free of air.
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Everything is tight, no leaks found thus far. Which bleeder? It is ABS. In research I see a bunch mentioning bleeding the ABS components as well as some sort of valves to "hold" etc?

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Also, would a hand vacuum pump with bleeder cup help me along?

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Nope, I have never used the suction method, and I have heard others not be able to get a good bleed with the suction method so I would stay away from it. You want the fluid to force the air out, nothing else works better. The bleeder I was referring to is the bleed nut on the back of the caliper. Obviously I don't know how much fluid you have lost so everything is conjecture on my part. I try not to loose fluid when I do a change so I don't have to bleed the system too much. Have never had any problems with the ABS controller since I try and prevent any bubbles getting up that far into the system. Also make sure you top off your master cylinder when you do this to prevent introducing any air bubbles from above.
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Full air intrusion in driver side caliper, Piston was forced out by the time they nursed into the place with caliper tied to a-arm.

Some air purged from passenger bleed screw as well since I figured it likely suffered some intrusion into tube from driver side line at tee.

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I've never dealt with a ABS that is completely dry. You may have to get more professional advice on that. Alternatively you may try to take out the ABS controller and bench bleed it like you would a master cylinder. You have to find a way to get fluid back in there or the system will think it's a massive failure and react accordingly.
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The best way to bleed your brakes is to attach a clear flexible tube to the bleeder and the other end inside a large jar filled halfway with clean brake fluid. The end of the tube needs to be completely submersed in brake fluid at all times. I used to use a jar with a lid and drill a small hole in the lid just big enough to fit the tube through. This tends to hold the tube in place and at the bottom of the jar.

Make sure the master cylinder is full open the bleeder screw. Slowly stroke the brake pedal from one extreme to the other several times. Sometimes you may have to move from one wheel to the other several times before you get good flow. Continue this process until you get no air bubbles in the jar. The jar needs to be located above the brake caliper or wheel cylinder to ensure the air rises to the highest point.

You may to stop several times during the process and empty some of the fluid from inside the jar (you need to keep some for the tube to be submersed).

If you ran the master cylinder completely dry, you will need to remove the m/c and bench bleed it first. The ABS should be OK, it will bleed normally through the bleeding process of the individual wheels. Some applications need to have the ABS activated through the use of a DRB for a complete bleed of the system.
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