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Old 02-20-2011, 10:42 PM
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Here is my thinking. I do a lot of snowmobiling in the winter, towing a trailer 3-500 miles each time. Taking an extra 20 minutes in the slush to check 8 tires every trip isn't very fun. Nitrogen also works well for these small trailer tires that wear out rather quickly.

So I will easily pay for unlimited refills of nitrogen vs get on my knees in the slush/ice/snow/rain to check and top them off.
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Thanks everyone for the input, I was kind of figuring that it would be split between for and against nitrogen. 09bighorn, you are exactly right, I hadn't though about the nitrogen content in ambient air, it makes no sense to pay for something containing only a fraction more nitrogen. Kind of makes me wonder what exactly mpg difference there is between nitrogen and air. Does it make it worth the money for nitrogen, I highly doubt it but if anyone can find any statistics that prove me wrong, or anything pertaining to the topic at hand, I would appreciate it.
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Ever noticed how paint shops and tire places that use a/c's have a water separator? N2 doesn't have the water content, which is why the rims don't rust. My '09 has N2, went from March-November without any issues. Temps jumped down to the -'s and my light came on, went to the dealership and they checked them and reset the light, 3 were at 36 1 was at 34.....can't really complain about 8 months, plus being military they do it for free.
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So how much water does the tire shop dump out of your old tires when you get new ones at 60k miles? I guess I never noticed the guys pulling the tires off and rolling them outside to dump all the water out. Glad my aluminum wheels don't rust.

My TPMS came on once this winter and instead of making a trip down to the dealership for a couple psi of N2 I topped off the tire with "air" from my garage which is only 78% N2.
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good to see someone ate a bowl of smartass this morning...lol...yes I know aluminum doesn't rust....I didn't say there was GALLONS of water in air that they use...omg I give up.....14 hour shift and trying to relax by cruising the forums just doesn't work I guess......atleast tell me you are a fellow maintainer then I'll leave it alone...but if you are a nonner...it's on! lol
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Thats exactly my point. Im in the military too and the last thing i want to do after work or on the weekend is go to the dealership when i can fix it myself. Between deployments and long shifts my free time is valuable. My post meant more as a "come on man" than to be a jackass.
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OK, The N2 crowd is exactly correct in the use of N2 (bigger molecules, better mileage, longer lasting tires, etc). Tha "Air" crew is also correct - I mean really, how long are your tires going to last, how much better is your mpg over others' and just because NASCAR does it, does it make it right foer you? Only you, you wallett, and your "It's mine and what I do makes it right" makes the difference. Again, if the extra 7% or so you get with an N2 fill makes a huge enough difference, then go for it. For me, my tires die from age before mileage.
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What he said up top. Any good air compressor will run you about $100.00 and will do a bunch more that fill up tires.
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Run nitrogen cost me 16 dollars for all tires at costco and seems to be just fine
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Ok so I'll chime in. The main reason NASCAR uses nitrogen (in my understanding) is the same reason it used for airplane tyres. Nitrogen does not support combustion; with heat generated by racing or airplane tyres you can understand why.

As for whether it is useful in our tyres that is debatable. The answer is probably yes but it may be very a very small benefit. I use it in mine primarily because I only paid $10 for all four tyres to be purged and filled. The biggest advantage I see is the lack of moisture and oxygen in the tyre not the that there is more nitrogen in the tyre. If done properly the nitrogen content should be close to 98% when finished. Granted the increase in nitrogen is only about 25% but the decrease in oxygen and water vapor is over 90%. It's the oxygen and water vapor the causes oxidation etc.

I'm not sure it has huge benefits but at $10 it can't hurt.
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