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Old 03-02-2011, 11:25 AM
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2004 6spd Cummins 4wd. My problems seemed to start after I removed the instrument cluster to replace a couple of dash light bulbs. Since that time I have an intermittent gauge failure. For less than a second a gauge/instrument will 'drop' to 0 then immediately return to a functional state. The most common offender is the fuel gauge. The low fuel 'chime' will sound once. The low fuel light may come on, might not. The gauge may or may not drop to empty. But all of this very brief - as second or less; then back to normal. Sometimes the tach or speedo may do the same thing - if so, they usually precede the fuel gauge in their action (drop to zero and immediately back to normal function). More rarely the temp gauge may falter or even the air bag or check engine light may flash on. The engine never stumbles or misses - runs fine. Very intermittent, but occurs about every 2-5 minutes on the average. Again, the fuel gauge seems to be the most frequent, but other gauges can stumble with or independent of the fuel. BTW, the fuel tank is well over 1/2 full.

I've pulled the instrument cluster 'codes': 2b (?), A4 (?), A5 (TCCM message not received), AA (PCM messages not received), Ab (TCM messages not received), AC (ABS messages not received), Ad (FCM messages not received), AE (ACM messages not received), and AF (ACM messages not received). sounds like a LOT of problems - but again, truck runs fine and instruments act fine 99.9% of the time. Unhooked battery (reset computer ?), removed instrument cluster and cleaned contacts and reassembled - no help. Tried to download OBDII codes, but no communication between truck and reader - reader works fine on other vehicles. Was able to get OBD codes by cycling ignition switch 'on' / 'off' several times: 0191 & 0483 are probably not associated issues, but the 1652 (communication bus) certainly could be.

Truck is functional, but obviously not right - and annoying. I'm pretty mechanically savvy, but admittedly am electronically ignorant. Sounds like some kind of communications error (intermittent). What to do? Where to look? Seems that the instrument cluster itself is okay?

If I've sent this request to the wrong forum, will someone who knows better please forward to the appropriate audience?

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Sounds exactly like the issue I had in the spring. Primarily mine was the tach, however after a while, the other guages started following suit. I made a video of mine, it got progressively worse until I took this video (at it's worst and MOST annoying). My solution was to replace the entire cluster and all was good in the world.

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that 'ding'-ing and the gauges dropping out are very similar - mines not that bad / constant . . . yet. did you record any instrument cluster or OBD codes? thanx for the feedback.

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Only codes I remember were the same, TCM/ECM not receiving etc, but I never had a problem getting my OBDII scanner to read. For me, I just went to a yard, ordered a cluster, got it reprogrammed to my correct mileage, and it still came out to less than ordering one from my dealership ($250+$75 vs $500). Did all the work myself as it's all plug and play, just pull the 3 panels, swap out clusters, put back together, done.
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certainly an easy enough fix. just want to make sure I'm replacing what NEEDS to be replaced. don't want to replace the instrument cluster only to find out that it was actually a computer module, wiring, plug, etc. do you know if instrument cluster for diesel is the same as for gas models? or year interchangeability? thanx again.
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The cluster is not interchangeable between the diesel and the gas, guages are calibrated differently (different RPM range). If you're getting drop out from more than one system, then the most likely scenario is what's receiving the info packets, not what's sending them.
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I can't offer any ideas of great wisdom, other than ensuring that all the ground are in place. However, I have attached the 2004 Ram service manual and wiring sections related to the instrument cluster. There is some great troubleshooting information, procedures, etc. that may assist you in your effort. Enjoy!
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I am running dodge ram2500 year 2005, yesterday suddenly my intrument cluster digital number not working, remote keyles entry not working,also left /right turn signals not working, if any body could give any suggestion from where i have to start troubleshoot this problem i will greatly appreciate, thanks for the feed back
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