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Old 03-05-2011, 09:36 AM
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I just bought a 2011 Ram Sport.
I'm thinking of buying a programmer for it.
I'm not sure which brand to get. I've been looking at Superchips and Hypertech.
Do they work as the manufacturer claims?
I have installed a K&N filter and may change the muffler in the future.
This truck is way harder on fuel than my previous 08 F150 with 5.4.
I hope this improves with time. I only have 2000 Kms on it so far.
Is this just the price I have to pay for the extra power?

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Congrats on the new truck. To my knowledge there are NO programers out for the 2011 ram as of yet, as I am impatiently waiting for one and I think I'm going with the superchips. I talked to Superchips a couple weeks ago and they hope to have it out my summer. They are testing everything out to make sure the new programmers will work with the new 11' ram. I think the Diablo Preditor is in the same boat. Let me know if you find out differently and have fun with the new ride, I love mine..
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Old 03-05-2011, 11:40 AM
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Thank's for the info.
I did notice there were no listings for 2011 programmers. I just assumed the 2010 models would work.

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Hey no problem and I wished they would work, I want one really bad. I get this little vibration that come to find out is the tranny shifting into overdrive too early and a programmer such as Superchips will fix this issue. Dodge says they are workin on a program to change the shift point as they know this is an issue and they can just flash our computers whenever they get it, but when will that be?? Hopefully one of them will get this out soon. So do you notice any kind of vibration at around 45-60 mph at the 1300-1600 rpm range?
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i notice a vibration around that speed.

does the superchip leave footprints?

i've read at some forums that a programmer may mess up the transmission over time. how true is that? has anybody else read that before?
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I'm told the Superchips does not leave a footprint. As far as a programmer messing up the tranny I have only heard (don't know how true it may or may not be) that it was the diablo preditor sport doing it. That dang vibration gets annoying doesn't it?
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Can't wait for a programmer for my 2011
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If you plan on doing any mods you definitely want the predator. The superchips have the ability to change shift points but the predator allows for custom tuning. I know the diablo doesn't leave a footprint and I'm assuming the sc will do the same. I'm not sure about hypertech. The computer is different in the 11's so it will be a while before anyone has a programmer out for it. We are all waiting for it.
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Congrats on your knew truck! I heard and learned a little about tuners, chips, programmers and other mods from other truck owners before I got my truck and looked at them more for a couple weeks after getting my truck...mainly for improving gas mileage.

Consider this?
Any descent programmer/chip (meaning one that at best does make 2-3 mpg improvement) is going to cost around $1,000.00, ie. Edgejuice. Now say it does gain you as much as 3 mpg and gas rates are at $4 per gal.
If you drove 10,000 miles per year at 15 mpg you'd have spent $2,666 in gas/yr. (10,000/15=666gal x$4= $2,664). Now gain 3mpg (=18mpg). Driving the same 10,000 miles per year at 18mpg you'll spend $2,222 per year. That's a savings of $442/yr or $37.00/month. Therefore, for that $1,000 programmer it will take 27month (over 2yrs.) to get the full investment return ($37.00 x 27 month = $999.00) before starting to make a savings in fuel cost. I know two guys that have spent well more than just the cost in a "programmer/tuner" with additional DPF delet and other mods to try and get more power and better mpg. Being truthful they both admit that while they liked the increased power an performance they achieved, they really could not see much mpg improvement. (maybe 1-2mpg if they drove sensibly and conserved more on the "power thrill"), which improvement in mpg would probably have just been the same in the first place. Also both of these guys have had their trucks in the shop more than once for engine issues since adding tuners and doing DPF deletes. So, for me, I've elected to be content with what I have and drive economically....JMHO!
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That looked like fun, so I did some calculations also.
I plugged in my own #s. (I'm in Canada). Here we go.
I have changed liters to Imp gallons ( 1 gal=4.55 liters )
I drive 20,000 kms per year = 12,500 miles
@ 15 miles per gallon, that's 833 gallons per year
@ 17 miles per gallon, that's 735 gallons per year.
A 2 mpg improvement saves 98 gallons per year.(833-735)
Gas here is $1.20 per liter which = $5.46 per gallon
So 2 mpg improvement (98 x 5.46) =$535 per year saving.
I guess I was hoping a $500 programmer would gain me 2mpg. If so, I think it would be worth my investment.

I have a friend who paid $8,000 more for a new F150 because it gets 2 more mpg than a Dodge. I can't wait to show him my math.
$8000/$535 means it will take him 15 yrs to make up the difference!

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