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Old 03-14-2012, 10:16 PM
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So regarding the last post from a few days ago I finally got my truck up on the lift and got a chance to take a look at it. It seemed to me that the transmission fluid pan had been leaking because every bolt that keeps it secure was loose. I tightened them up and am hoping for the best.

However, I got to thinking that maybe it's not the tran. fluid....what if it's the oil? The fluid is all over the underside of the frame and the transmission fluid pan and a few other places... I am at a loss here. The oil filter was snug as could be when I checked it on the lift...

Any info or ideas would be greatly appreciated! I thank you all in advance.
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What color is the oil you are seeing. That will tell all.
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Pink usually means Tranny fluid. Anything else means oil. I am only guessing but that's the only two colors I've ever found leaking off my old 01 Dodge
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^yeah. Oil will be blackish or goldish. Trans fluid should be redish. Also, do you have a manual transmission? The rear main oil seal on the engine (around the crankshaft) could be leaking. When they leak the oil usually runs down to the trans pan. Rear main seal leaks are much more common with manual transmissions than with auto transmissions since the clutch is constantly applying/releasing on the pressure plate, which transfers that force through to the crankshaft, causing the seal to wear a bit quicker than with auto trans, where you don't have that force. Just something else to look for.
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It's an automatic. The leak seems to be black in color but when i put the truck on the lift yesterday all of the bolts for the transmissions pan were loose. Is the main oil seal a hard and/or expensive fix? If this is the case of course. When checking the oil and trans fluid levels yesterday, oil was low and trans was fine. I'm just afraid ita going to be a major repair that costs buku bucks!
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It's an automatic. The leak seems to be black in color but when i put the truck on the lift yesterday all of the bolts for the transmissions pan were loose. Is the main oil seal a hard and/or expensive fix? If this is the case of course. When checking the oil and trans fluid levels yesterday, oil was low and trans was fine. I'm just afraid ita going to be a major repair that costs buku bucks!
It's not uncommon to find the transmission fluid pan to have loose bolts, you have an aluminum bell housing so after it heats up and cools down the bolts loosen a little. I always go back every oil change and just attach a inch lb torque wrench and check. Anyways if your rear main seal is leaking it's a cheap repair if you do it yourself of course. Maybe 100 bucks to fix the seal, I say 100 because I usually replace the oil pan gasket and do an oil change and I use valvoline so thats 22-25 bucks and then I use the OEM filter which is around 5-6 bucks. So yea in the end it's a 100 dollar repair, but hey you don't have to worry about it for a long time.
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Sounds like an oil leak if the fluid was black and your oil was low. Rear main seal is not a "simple" fix. How many miles are on the truck? Could be leaking oil at the oil pan, check to see that those bolts aren't loose. Could also be coming from up above like the valve covers.
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The rear main seal is cheap, but you have to pull the trans, oil pan, etc... just want to let the OP know it's not an "easy" fix...
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The rear main seal is cheap, but you have to pull the trans, oil pan, etc... just want to let the OP know it's not an "easy" fix...
You don't have to pull the transmission to replace the rear main seal, maybe on some of the GM's yes but he has a dodge, and the dodge magnum engines matched with any torqueflite don't require removal of the transmission to access the rear main bearing cap and seal. I have done it before on a Magnum engine and it is an easy fix and again don't need to remove the transmission. But I agree with you about checking other places for leaks before jumping to a conclusion. Anyways to the owner, here's a trick you can use to find oil leaks, use baby powder and put baby powder all over the engine were their is oily residue, if their is a leak it will show run lines of oil on the fresh powder.
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^ok, didn't know that. I don't see how you could get the seal on without removing the flywheel though. Two piece seal?
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