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Old 10-03-2011, 07:13 PM
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The Revelco site's statement that their security system has never been defeated is purely semantics. What is their definition of defeated? I can guarantee that a vehicle with this system can be towed away in less than 5 minutes. And if a thief wants the vehicle badly enough, they will just wait for you to come out with the Revelco key and take it from you at gun point. Best suggestion, purchase good auto insurance and rider policies for all the extras you add to the vehicle.
What's your point? Your suggestion of "good auto insurance and rider policies" won't keep the average car thief from cruising away with your ride. If you feel like you're protected with insurance, good for you. These kinds of silly statements are right up there with people who claim Ravelco is a poor idea because you could lose the key... if you're so stupid that you lose the Ravelco key I'd wager you've lost your truck key a time or two, so either way such a scenario is ridiculous. Your contentions that a car thief will lie in wait to take your Ravelco at gunpoint, or that car thieves commonly cruise around in tow trucks are simply ludicrous, and not reflective of the average car thief. Please provide some statistics on how many vehicles are stolen at gunpoint or via tow truck vs. due to opportunity to back up your assertion.

I prefer to know that my truck will be where I parked it, all the while enjoying the discount I got from my insurance carrier for having an anti-theft system installed.

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i disagree. if someone tows it, i do have insurance. I think the chances of that in my situation are very low. The ravelco is for the vast majority of thieves and that is what it is designed for. nothing will guard against a carjack. I think your analogy is off base. I lock my doors at night at home, if someone wants in bad enough they can shoot the hinges off, or run a car through my front door, or bring a saw and cut a hole, etc etc. I will still lock my doors at night.
My statement is completely analogous. The factory alarm is no different than you locking your doors. It will keep honest people honest. Dishonest people will find a way to circumvent any security if they want something bad enough.
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The Revelco site's statement that their security system has never been defeated is purely semantics. What is their definition of defeated? I can guarantee that a vehicle with this system can be towed away in less than 5 minutes. And if a thief wants the vehicle badly enough, they will just wait for you to come out with the Revelco key and take it from you at gun point. Best suggestion, purchase good auto insurance and rider policies for all the extras you add to the vehicle.
That's an interesting comment but I think your ideas are a bit off the mark.

First this is what the web site actually says:
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Since it's debut, THERE HAS BEEN NO REPORTED INCIDENT IN WHICH A VEHICLE PROTECTED BY A PROPERLY- INSTALLED AND UTILIZED RAVELCO HAS BEEN STOLEN! The Ravelco Anti Theft Device is the ONLY product that can claim COMPLETE SUCCESS in preventing car theft! No other alarm system, anti theft device or vehicle tracking system can make that claim. NOT ONE VEHICLE STOLEN IN MORE THAN 3 DECADES!
So you're right, carjacking is an exception since the Ravelco couldn't be utilized in that situation but I don't think that is particularly important. Carjacking accounts for less than .5% of car thefts. On the other hand, Ravelco would be in use if a car was towed but I think that is insignificant. The language Ravelco uses in no way makes an exception for towing so I'll guess it hasn't happened and that is believable. In my research of all the methods and statistics mentioned towing doesn't make the list. In fact, when it happens it tends to make the news. Steal a car with a tow truck and people will start to notice; eventually a description gets posted and your truck is very visible. I'd be willing to bet cars stolen by tow truck are not a major concern.

So in possibly 99% of car thefts (yes my number) this unit would be effective...I'll take that and say that the company is being genuine in their claims. I think I'll be looking into it.
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