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Old 05-20-2011, 12:45 PM
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I have a 01 1500 5.9 4x4 with 75k on it. I had a problem a month or so ago which we thought was sovled by replacing the battery. It has now resurfaced.

The truck has seemed a bit slow to start the past week...like its slowly cranking before firing up. Then all of a sudden it starts but won't stay running unless you keep on the gas...i.e keep the rpms up. this morning it starts and idles fine, but now I'm afraid to take it anywhere and get stranded, so I need to figure this out.

Battery is holding good charge, ingnition coil primary check shows 1.3 ohms which is just a tad on the high side. Will replace that today. Does this problem sound like anything really specific to anyone? Starts but won't stay running unless rpm's are up. Fuel pressure is fine also.
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Hey All:

I have a 01 1500 5.9 4x4 with 75k on it. I had a problem a month or so ago which we thought was sovled by replacing the battery. It has now resurfaced.

The truck has seemed a bit slow to start the past week...like its slowly cranking before firing up. Then all of a sudden it starts but won't stay running unless you keep on the gas...i.e keep the rpms up. this morning it starts and idles fine, but now I'm afraid to take it anywhere and get stranded, so I need to figure this out.

Battery is holding good charge, ingnition coil primary check shows 1.3 ohms which is just a tad on the high side. Will replace that today. Does this problem sound like anything really specific to anyone? Starts but won't stay running unless rpm's are up. Fuel pressure is fine also.

Replace the pickup coil in the distributor. You're suppose to replace it every 70K miles according the the service manuals. It sends a signal to the computer for when to fire etc...
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:57 PM
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i'm not familiar with the "pick-up" coil. I've got a distributor cap, rotor, then a thing called a camshaft position sensor. Would that be it?
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Pickup coil is inside of the distributor. If you remove the distributor cap and the rotor there is that black plastic inside of the distributor. If you unscrew that from the distributor body thats the coil. Some coils have contacts in them that ware away over time, others are magnetic. The magnetic ones though permanent magnet still loose there magnetism over time. Try cleaning the coil with some running alcohol and if no good replace it for the hell of it because your suppose to every now and again. KEEP ME POSTED
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Just took out the cap, rotor and pick-up coil. the terminals in the cap have quite a bit of corrosion as does the rotor. i'm very surprised any connection was being made at all. the pick-up coil still has magnetism to it. money is a bit tight so I'm thinking about just puting a new cap and rotor on though i know the truck needs new plugs, wires as well. not sure what I'll do. I'll let you know if the symptoms are fixed when I get it all together. Its awful darn tight back there.
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Just took out the cap, rotor and pick-up coil. the terminals in the cap have quite a bit of corrosion as does the rotor. i'm very surprised any connection was being made at all. the pick-up coil still has magnetism to it. money is a bit tight so I'm thinking about just puting a new cap and rotor on though i know the truck needs new plugs, wires as well. not sure what I'll do. I'll let you know if the symptoms are fixed when I get it all together. Its awful darn tight back there.
Well you can replace the coil it's the smart thing but you can buy yourself some time by using a nail file and sanding down the contacts and clean it out good. I did that for my cap and rotor and worked great, little trick my grandfather did.

Yes I know their is little space, I have space in the back of the engine because I got a van. But no space in the front have alot to remove.
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replaced the cap, rotor, and pick-up coil last night. starts up fine but the idle is pretty rough. not sure where to start looking now. I supposed I should have swapped out the plugs and wires which is probably the next step. I'll re-verify everything was in the right place on the distributor cap and go from there. Question-does the actual distributor ever need to be replaced? the haynes manual explains the removal procedure but not a "check" to see if its working properly.
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replaced the cap, rotor, and pick-up coil last night. starts up fine but the idle is pretty rough. not sure where to start looking now. I supposed I should have swapped out the plugs and wires which is probably the next step. I'll re-verify everything was in the right place on the distributor cap and go from there. Question-does the actual distributor ever need to be replaced? the haynes manual explains the removal procedure but not a "check" to see if its working properly.
No I don't believe that replacement of the distributor is a part of service. I could be wrong however I have never done it on my 5.2L and it's 16 Years old and hect I never ever clean my pickup coil lol... But for your rough idle you may want to clean your throttle body with carb cleaner, their is some great stuff you can get for real cheap I love it go to autozone and get $1.99 value craft carb cleaner. Works great. On the throttle body is a idle solenoid and sometimes varnish and gum and junk just collects on it and it kills your idle. Also try putting some fuel injector/intake valve cleaner in this might help with keeping the fuel system clean. Next step is then to check for fouled spark plugs then you can replace those and the wireset. REMEMBER to check the Gap on the spark plugs, even if pre gapped don't be lazy cause they're not always gapped correctly.

BE SURE your fire order is correct. A wrong fire order give your an ugly idle.

Now with dodge and many trucks, I've seen rough idles have to do with misfires because of bad wireset, old plugs, bad fire order, and clogged fuel injector.

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am i correct in assuming the number one cylinder wire goes to the number one spot on the distributor then from the next cylinder in firing order around from there? i have the schematic in my haynes manual I just want to verify.
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am i correct in assuming the number one cylinder wire goes to the number one spot on the distributor then from the next cylinder in firing order around from there? i have the schematic in my haynes manual I just want to verify.
Yea something like that, but the distributor fire order from 1 isn't 1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8... The fire order is stamped on the top of the front of the intake manifold. That's the fire order for the distributor. Then stamped on the side of the intake manifold around each fuel injector is the cylinder number. Now you can always just go on the web and google it and find out. Don't always go by the hayes and chilton's because sometimes their is alot of typos the fire order is fine and things like that but some torque settings are a little off. Remember if you remove the throttle body to clean it replace the throttle body gasket and air cleaner gasket if applicable and be sure to torque the throttle body to 200 Inch Lbs torque in a star type manner.
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