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Old 05-26-2011, 12:24 AM
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oh and on a side note....quality tools make a HUGE difference. All my bolts came off easily until I got to the head bolts. I broke a 5/16 socket and two extentions (due to my super human strength lol) that I had picked up over the years from various places. After much cussing and the loss of a knuckle I went to Sears and picked up a socket set and 6" extension, got home and broke those bolts right off.
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Lol yeah ain't no way I'm getting a compression test at this point. I got the passenger side heads off and there was coolant sitting on the cylinders. At first I thought the gasket was fine then after looking at it closer I can see where theres a gap but its not in the gasket its in the gook thats on the metal. The gasket looks pretty good actually, but the head looks like it wasnt cleaned or something before it was put on. I'll post pics tomorrow. I also started the cleaning process on the intake manifold. Oven cleaner is the bomb! After I get the other side off I'll take em to our local machine shop and pray for the best. I'm optimistic tho cuz I found the break in the gasket. Look for pics tomorrow.
Finding some coolant in the cylinder when removing the heads is common because it will leak down, and of course if their is a bad gasket you would find it however you can tell if it's been burning coolant for a long time by checking the piston head. If you have been burning coolant in the combustion chamber for a period of time then the piston head should not have much if any carbon on it. If you want I can get you 2 Cylinder Heads that are refurbished myself for 350 bucks. Autozone charges around 350 for each one and requires a core. You can keep your core and everything. Now I got that out the way. You want to check the mating surface of the head and the block with a straight edge to check for any warps. Warping isn't good. But can be corrected. After you clean the cam shaft and galley of all the sludge throw some brand new oil on it so you can have some pre lube. Don't use any abrasives on the mating surfaces to remove any old gasket or anything, especially with heads because the gaskets are steel with a silica based coating. Make sure you hook me up with lots of photos. Picture tells the story.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:43 AM
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is it ok for me to take the oven cleaner to the valley and use my scraper(gently) to remove the carbon?
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:45 AM
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Finding some coolant in the cylinder when removing the heads is common because it will leak down, and of course if their is a bad gasket you would find it however you can tell if it's been burning coolant for a long time by checking the piston head. If you have been burning coolant in the combustion chamber for a period of time then the piston head should not have much if any carbon on it. If you want I can get you 2 Cylinder Heads that are refurbished myself for 350 bucks. Autozone charges around 350 for each one and requires a core. You can keep your core and everything. Now I got that out the way. You want to check the mating surface of the head and the block with a straight edge to check for any warps. Warping isn't good. But can be corrected. After you clean the cam shaft and galley of all the sludge throw some brand new oil on it so you can have some pre lube. Don't use any abrasives on the mating surfaces to remove any old gasket or anything, especially with heads because the gaskets are steel with a silica based coating. Make sure you hook me up with lots of photos. Picture tells the story.
If you can give me 10-15 mins I'll upload pics.
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is it ok for me to take the oven cleaner to the valley and use my scraper(gently) to remove the carbon?
I would use a very light plastic bristle brush to clean it nothing that can scratch. Becareful not to get any cleaners onto the piston rod bearings. If you degrease the bearings you will have to remove then and put some oil on them. Their is going to be some sludge in the galley and spots you can't reach but for the areas you can't get to you will be doing various seafoam treatments. It's quite redneck to do seafoam for sludge but I don't think you could afford to rebuild the entire engine and have the block steam cleaned and bored if needed. etc...
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If you can give me 10-15 mins I'll upload pics.
ill be here all night. email me some photos because i can enlarge them
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:03 AM
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Here are pics of the head and of my intake manifold after one spraying of oven cleaner and light scraping.
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Here are pics of the head and of my intake manifold after one spraying of oven cleaner and light scraping.
Looks like you been burning coolant in some of those cylinders for quite a while. If you get the heads machined you might as well remove the rockers, springs, valves, keepers, etc... Just be sure you keep the valves organized so they go back exactly where they came from. You have alot of gunk and build up in that engine. If you get the masket gasket kit it will come with a new plenum gasket so you can take that plenum off the intake to clean it better. Of course their is a torque pattern to be fallowed on that plenum gasket as well.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:14 AM
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I got the entire intake manifold gasket set with upper and lower gaskets. I just wanted to see what the cleaner would do. Once I get the other side off I'll break em down. Can you see where the gaskets were broken? I got everything except the hg's and hg bolts. Those will be in tomorrow.
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