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Old 11-15-2011, 04:36 PM
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Wow

Well ok um where to start

I had given up on this swap and forgotten about this thread acctually

The truck that I had found was bought by sombody a day or so before I was going to be able to get it
But it sounds like the long and the short of it is this..

The moter will bolt directly to my frame and mounts
the trans that I have will bolt up and work BUT not recomended
I would need cooling and ECM

Im defenitly going to remember this as this is still somthing that Id love to do as Im sure NOBODY anywhere near me has a short cab short box with a V10

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Nope. Iron V-10 uses the same pattern as an A, LA, Magnum, 3G hemi. The Cummins is adapted to fit Mopar transmissions.
V10 are not the same as the other smallblocks
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Well looks like the debate rages on about the trannies so here it is.
I called a buddy of mine who swapped a v10 out of his truck and put in a cummins. He told me that the the tranny frim the v10 bolted rifht up to the cummins.. he then pulled a v8 trans out of the scrap pile and compared it to the cummins tranny.. not a match no way no how

I really wouldent mind running the v10 tranny but im sure that it shfts like a dump truck ajd if im going through all the trouble of putting a v10 in my truck I want somthing that is going to have a bit of a sporty shift feel to it. Somthing that will let the moter wind out and them slam it into rhe next gear not all mushy feeling.

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The V10 bellhousing matches the Cummins, not the v8 models.
The original overdrive unit was designed for 400 ft/lbs max torque input. The same unit was used on both the A500 and A518. Only difference was the size of the coolant lines. This changed over time as Mopar made adjustments (cheaply) in an effort to improve durability. The Cummins and V10 are in a whole other ballpark in power production, so they have beefier transmissions. Matching the bellhousing to the V8 models was not a concern. It was cheaper to match the V10 to the Cummins since they'd share transmissions (other than different calibration). You could swap the guts, get an adapter, or get a matching transmission.
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almost certain your 318 tranny wont work cause the auto for the v10 is only available for the cummins as well and i dnt believe your 318 tranny isnt rated for the torque of the v10 so it wouldnt survive too long if you drive it hard alot. as far as weight youre looking at about another 250-300 lbs. the v10 bone dry is about 800lbs. the issue with getting a lowered look by using your old springs could cause the old springs to fail and sag due to the unintended weight constantly being there. other things you mmight need is radiator overflow tank v10 radiator (its about twice the size of the 318) not too sure about other parts.
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You actually could get away with using a tranny from the 318, provided it's from a 318 in the 2500 series or 3500 series truck. The 46rh found in the 2500 series for example has a rated torque capacity of 600 ft/lbs however this number can be increased if you change out the input shaft/retainer to a billet of high strength steel (300M as praised) and you change the input shaft as they have a tendency to snap. Their are some other small modifications that you would want to do. You could just use a plain 46rh for example behind the cummins but you would want to take it easy, else wise just get a 47 or 48. as far as mounting is concerned you may need to change the bell housing, i'm unsure if the mount is the same for the cummins and 318 but you would either need a shim or rebuild the transmission in a new case. The 46rh would probably be the minimal acceptable transmission to be used behind a cummins and still it would need some mod's to have it take that kind of abuse. i must say though that these TF's especially the A500 series are power robbers. in all respects I believe the weakest part of the whole transmission is the overdrive, the whole transmission is simple design but the design of that OD could of been better. the sliding hub was good idea but same time bad idea because the sun gear has damaged the splines of the hub internally thus causing you to loose all your gears because it's hung up, happened to me and what a pain... another possible issue is the direct clutch piston, the machined grove for the inner seal has been overcut at the factory on a certain number of transmissions and well causes reverse slips and 2-3 binds but luckly many rebuild kits now include two different seals. anyway's you cannot pick out which transmission to use based on the engine because the manufacture based the transmission to be used on the application 1500, 2500, 3500. of course the 46 is found behind the 318 and not the v6. v6 has the 42 rh. oh just remembered if you use any transmission behind the diesel you will want to check the front planet how many gears are in the carrier, the more gears will not affect the gear ratio but it affects the duty rating so you would want to upgrade from lets say a 3 pinion to a 5 or 6. another thing that i think is an issue is when the intermediate shaft has been re drilled with large lube holes, I find that to be a issue because you could possibly reduce pressure at the opposite ends from the feed. but that's just my opinion on that. of course any transmission used in towing or behind a high torque vehicle use a oversized transmission cooler, these transmission get very hot very quick. anyways 2 cents paid
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Hey man don't listen to the nay sayers haha its your truck do as you please and have fun with it I would. They all have good points it is gonna be a job but can be done. It's no different than back in the day doing the small block to big block swaps That wasn't crazy then haha a lot more electrical now but oh well good luck.
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