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Old 07-04-2011, 07:10 PM
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Default Spindle nut torque on 2wd.... 185# cant be right! HELP!

I am putting new rotors on my TWO WHEEL DRIVE 1998 dodge ram. It uses the 2 bearings that are installed in the rotor (it is NOT a unit hub bearing). When i removed it the nut broke loose pretty easily it was not under a whole lot of torque. I have been googling for the right torque spec and i keep coming up with the number 185 foot pounds. This cant be right it feels WAY to tight. It sounds like the torque spec for a 4wd front wheel unit bearing that has an axle shaft passing through it.

I need to get this truck together today and i cant call the dealer because they are not open. If anyone has any info please help thanks!
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After not being able to come up with any other number than 180 foot pounds i came up with another idea.

I checked Belltech's website for drop spindles and looked at their installation .pdf file. They say to tighten it to 10 foot pounds. This seems right to me after changing a few rotors of this type on other vehicles.

I will call my Dodge dealer in the morning and double check this but it sounds right to me.
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I can only find 175-180 and thats only 4x4's ? I have read on several forums that the people have been using the 175pounds which is the 4x4 specs. since there is very little on the 2WD. I tried looking for specs but i am turning up empty handed as well except those the above. I am reading in the forums the newer trucks require 460 pounds or it will come loose as well as the 180 pounds. Seems like a touchy subject and it might be best to wait for the dealer to open rather than be sorry and cost you an arm and a leg to repair it later. I tried GOOGLE and more but nothing specific on that subject...all pulled up 4x4 even when I entered 2 wheel drive.
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look at this site, it may have the information that you are seeking

http://www.ehow.com/how_4508592_repl...dodge-ram.html
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I can only find 175-180 and thats only 4x4's ? I have read on several forums that the people have been using the 175pounds which is the 4x4 specs. since there is very little on the 2WD. I tried looking for specs but i am turning up empty handed as well except those the above. I am reading in the forums the newer trucks require 460 pounds or it will come loose as well as the 180 pounds. Seems like a touchy subject and it might be best to wait for the dealer to open rather than be sorry and cost you an arm and a leg to repair it later. I tried GOOGLE and more but nothing specific on that subject...all pulled up 4x4 even when I entered 2 wheel drive.
I think there was Change of front hub rotor/bearing somewhere along the line. Here are some Conflicting part numbers off autozones website

This is the Rotor hub bearing that my truck uses its a 1998
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...1_172972_4825_

This is Rotor for a 2001 and nothing like my 1998

\http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...3_172993_2708_

And here is a wheel bearing for a 2001 The image seems generic but for the price os $127.99 it must be a newer type hub bearing with the rotor being separate from it.

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...9_164928_4215_

The 2001 type bearing being torqued to 180 foot pounds wouldn't surprise me because thats the same type bearing on 1990's jeeps and they are torqued to a smiler spec.

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And here is the .pdf file found on belltech's website for drop spindles of the type used on my 1998 ram.

http://belltech-store.com/aca_php/im...mages/2650.pdf

26. Apply high quality wheel bearing grease to the spindle-bearing pin and to the rear dust seal face.
Install the brake rotor straight onto the spindle pin. Re-install the outer wheel bearing, washer, nut, and
locking tab (Photo 39 & 40). Tighten the wheel bearing nut according to the following procedure:

a. Torque the bearing-securing nut to 10ft-lbs.

b. Loosen the nut to a “just loose” position by hand. If the cotter pin holes do not line up, loosen
the nut until the cotter pin holes do line up, but in no case is the nut to be backed off more than
¼ turn from the previous “just loose” position.

c. Install a new cotter pin so that the ends do not interfere with the dust cap. Bend the ends of the
cotter pin against the nut and cut off any excess cotter pin length.
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I got out my service manual for the 2nd generation Dodge trucks and the torque spec says 185 lb ft. That surprises me and seems really, really high!
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If that seems high, How about 210ft/lbs. on the drive axles of a 1961 baja bug...really !!! I owned it and the only way I could torque it was to put a pipe on it and jump on it...lol
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Like MADDOG, I pulled the service manual and saw the same 185 lb/ft spec. Absolutely not what I would have expected, but.....
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