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Old 01-14-2013, 10:18 PM
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Dang man, you went through the hardest part of going tot he store and finding the gasket material, then still ended up siliconing it? Hang on to the gasket material, you'll end up redoing this eventually(unless you sell the truck soon).
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I knew someone would inturpret what i wrote that way.
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What do you mean? I just read what you wrote literally.

Wasn't trying to be a jerk, just if you went and bought the gasket why did you still silicone it?
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I wasn't offended by your response. Just realized you are the original poster too. So, let me say thanks for starting a great thread, with a real solution. I did buy the gasket material, and will hold on to it for possible future use. My solution was more of a gamble for me to see if my troubleshooting skills were acurate or not. I take risks like that. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't.

I just meant that someone would see the word silicone in my post and possibly interpret it as me saying that i bought a tube of household silicone, loaded it into the caulk gun, and "glued" the thing back on. That's the last thing i would do.

To clarify my original post, i used a type of non-cureing silicone based gasket/o-ring sealant. Designed to aid gaskets and o-rings in sealing in harsh environmental condtions. Something i "aquired" while in the Navy. It does not cure like the household stuff. I obviously need to be able to take the thing on and off to change light bulbs.

Based on my experience as a mechanic and engineer, i found the flaw to be the fit up between the light housing and the sheet metal. Only having one screw on each end of the light housing is inadequate. It would be like attaching your oil pan using bolts only in the corners, and expecting zero oil leaks. Wouldn't happen.

Your solution of using the thicker gasket is a good one. The increased thickness obviously increases the pressure on the mateing surfaces provided by the two screws. I just went a different route to accomplish the same thing (i.e. changed the contour of the sheet metal to increase the contact area of the oem gasket, which i found lacking).

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Gotcha, so is that material similar to the stuff you buy in a tube to make gaskets with? Like RTV gasket maker?
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Nope. The stuff i have does not cure to a flexible gasket like form. It is very similar in consistancy to the light grease you get with new brake pads. In the Navy, we used it to aid o-rings and gaskets in sealing down to our submarines test depth. I figured if it could be used in saltwater under hundreds of PSI, and help keep the water out, it would be ok for my brake light.

I used it to do two things.

1. I used it to perform a contact check of the existing condition, which showed that there was less than adequate surface contact between the gasket and sheet metal. I repeated this again after making adjustments to the sheet metal to determine the new surface contact measurement.

2. I left it on to assist the oem gasket with sealing.

When reinstalling the light, i could also see the difference between the "gasket crush" before and after.

We'll see how it does right? I promise i'll post if it doesn't.
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Ok I see. I did notice the same thing about the bad design of the 2 screws, with uneven pressure.

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I ended up doing this on my 2nd gen. Works well, although due to the design of the weatherstrip I bought, I had to trim it in half.
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Thanks Sean,

I'm sorry I called it a mod thread. I just figured since you went against the grain so to speak with the weatherstrip it was a "mod". Anyway, I decided to use strip caulk instead. I water tested it for the last 3 hours without a drop. Yours would be easier to replace bulbs, but I can deal with a semi removable gasket as it is what I had laying around the shop. Thanks for the ideas!







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I just took my truck through a laser wash system and noticed water leaking in the passnger rear corner. I also have an after market 3rd brake light too. I will have to try this out.
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