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Old 11-14-2011, 12:20 PM
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im getting my first oil change done and im more confused than ever on which way i should go, regular dino oil or full synthetic. also dont know which way to go as far a brands either, mobli1, pennzoil, valvoline, castrol..........are they all pretty much the same (i was looking for the "pulling my hair out smilie" but cant seem to find one lol), dont get me started on what filters i should use either cuz i havent got a clue. i use to think oil was oil, i guess i was wrong. my head is balding enough on its own and i cant afford to pull anymore out. im probably going the route of full synthetic but which one? can anyone steer me in the right direction? is it just a matter of flipping a coin on which to use? thanks

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I will say that there is a $4 or $5 dollar oil filter out there that is every store, it has a paper end cap & the by pass valve is junk.
Spend $6 & get a better brand oil filter

Modern day motor oils are pretty equal, whether it is dino or synthetic
When i first bought my Ram, the dealership down here was using Mobile One dino in the oil changes, then Valvoline got the contract for a year, in May of this year the Shell Oil Company won a 2 year contract & the oil that they are now using is Pennzoil in gas engines & Rotella in diesels
I was ready to make may switch to Synthetic & i picked a brand that is available everywhere, Mobile One synthetic & i found that it is even available at Walmart for quite a bit less than anyone else charges for it, i buy it in the 5 quart jugs
The thing is I will not be changing brands, when i am ready to sell this Ram, it will have the same brand as i am using now, i don't believe in switching back & forth
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Mobile1 extended performance(5qt jugs at Walmart, $30) and the new Fram extended guard 10,000 mile filter(walmart $8). And this one is not paper and cheap valves, rates out = to the mobile1 and k&n.
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Just my opinion here of course, but I don't see any advantage of going synthetic unless you are willing to extend you oil change interval. I run Amsoil oil and filters, and change the oil in my vehicles once a year no matter what the miles. We don't drive our vehicles a ton of miles a year, so that works out well for me. Amsoil's top of the line oil says you can go as much as 25,000 miles. Thats way more than I'm willing to go, but 7 or 8 thousand miles doesn't seem like a stretch if your using the good stuff.

If you run regular dino oil, there is nothing wrong with that. For oil filters, I run either Napa Gold or Amsoil filters.
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What they all said is great advice ^

Dino oil is fine, but synthetic is better, no matter what anyone says. Not that an engine with dino oil won't last a long time, but with synthetic it will last longer, and you end up saving money. Like stated above you can get mobil 1 extended performance for $30, it lasts 15k miles. I use that oil but change every 8-10k or so, sometimes even sooner. It is still cheaper in the end. Any synthetic oil is good, but the big trusted brands like mobil, amsoil, castrol, etc.... are obviously more common and easy to get in local stores. I'd go for whatever synthetic is a big name and good price. It always ends up being mobil in my area. As for filters, like they said spend a few dollars extra, it makes a big difference. Make sure you get a filter that can last as long as the synthetic oil if you go that route. I buy the mobil 1 EP with matching filter on sale at autozone for like $40 I think. Lasts me about half a year.
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I drive quite a lot in my business, that is why i went to synthetic
In July i had 40,000 miles on my Ram, i had 56,000 miles on it in September & i had taken 3 weeks off from work
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This post is a great example of how useful or useless the internet can be- too much information pulling the OP in too many directions. What weight, dino/semi-syn, full synthetic, type and make of filter, change interval, and on and on.

Here's my advice- when in doubt- READ YOUR MANUAL and follow the manufacturers recommendation- or just take the vehicle to the dealership so they can do the service for you.

If you don't want to read the manual, or go to the dealer, then get a box of factory filters, a name brand 5W20 oil, and change the oil and filter ever 3 months- January 1st, April 1st, July 1st, and September 1st.

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I may be mistaken, but i believe the filter inside of the MOPAR oil filter cannister is a cheap Fram & i won't have one on my Ram or any other vehicle until they say it is Not
I believe that in May when the new supplier contracts were announced, Honeywell won the contract for oil filters
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This post is a great example of how useful or useless the internet can be- too much information pulling the OP in too many directions. What weight, dino/semi-syn, full synthetic, type and make of filter, change interval, and on and on.

Here's my advice- when in doubt- READ YOUR MANUAL and follow the manufacturers recommendation- or just take the vehicle to the dealership so they can do the service for you.

If you don't want to read the manual, or go to the dealer, then get a box of factory filters, a name brand 5W20 oil, and change the oil and filter ever 3 months- January 1st, April 1st, July 1st, and September 1st.

Don't create a mountain out of an anthill.
There's a reason I change my own oil on my truck; the dealer uses conventional oil, and I'd also have to go in every 3k miles (about once a month half the year, and once every 2-3 months the other half of the year). We were trying to help him make his decision, obviously he can read the manual and go to the dealer, but the benefits of synthetic are what he was asking about. For me the main benefit is extended oil changes(only change it once or twice a year instead of about 5-6 times a year, and save a lot of money. This is beyond the other benefits of the oil itself.

In this case we all are really leading him in the same direction, not different directions; synthetic oil is better than conventional, extended intervals and save money, buy a good filter.
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Just my 2 cents, but I think synthetic is over rated. I have driven a few cars to 150K plus miles, always used dino oil, never changed the oil before passing 5-6k miles, and always used the cheapy filters. All cars were in great running condition when I got rid of them. I use to have an RX-7 Turbo, sold it at 165k miles to some guy who wanted to make it into a racer. The guy had the motor out and tested, said compression and horsepower were exactly where it was when the car left the factory. If dino oil was good enough for that motor, its good enough period.

The truth is, IMO, many of us don't even keep our cars or trucks long enough to even reap the benefits of using expensive synthetic. Have watched many friends make a big deal about only using synthetic in their cars and constantly changing the oil, just to see them driving someting else a year or two later. If you think you'll keep your truck forever, I understand, but otherwise I don't think it's necassary.
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