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Old 07-24-2011, 12:29 AM
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Regarding the front and rear diffs Army, the manual, written by the authority which is Chrysler, states up to the final schedule entry, (144,000 miles) inspect the fluids. Again, change if using the vehicle for commercial or fleet duty.

Either they don't know what they're talking about, or you're practicing overkill. Seems to me that Chrysler has more faith in the longevity of modern lubricants than you do, but it's your money.
Of course they do...but I still think you all are misreading...because my 09 manual in .pdf format says this:
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60,000 Miles (100,000 km) or 60 Months Maintenance Service Schedule
❏ Change the engine oil and engine oil filter.
❏ Rotate the tires.
❏ Replace the engine air cleaner filter.
❏ Replace the ignition cables (3.7L Engine).
❏ Replace the spark plugs (3.7L and 5.7L Engines).
❏ Inspect the brake linings; replace if necessary.
❏ Change the automatic transmission fluid and filter.
❏ Change the transfer case fluid.
❏ Change front and rear axle fluid if not done at 54,000 miles (87 000 km).
❏ Flush and replace the engine coolant at 60 months if not done at 102,000 miles (170 000 km).
❏ Inspect the front suspension, tie rod ends and boot seals for cracks or leaks and all parts for damage, wear, improper looseness or end play;
replace if necessary.
And if the .pdf and printed manuals are different then that could explain this, but otherwise I am going by whats above^. But my hunch is that average joe is going to do whats in the manual and this is what chrysler wants...so they can sell you new components after your warranty expires (This is auto industry standard, because it makes financial sense).

As I said, y'all do what you want. I am not angry, or butthurt, Nobody has to take my advice. I will not cry if they dont. I know better than to run gear fluid longer than 60k. Bottom line is its not my money. If people want to waste it thousands at a time because the manual doesnt specifically state they have to change their fluids (which is funny because mine does), then thats their option. I would rather throw it away in $100 increments than by the thousands.

If I waste $100 every year or 2 on fluid changes, money well spent IMO. Again, changing fluids is common sense, and cheap insurance. ALL OIL BREAKS DOWN=Fact, not my opinion.
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I go by what's stated in my manual for service intervals. When I was commuting a lot longer than I am now I still changed the oil every 3 mos./36K as I, too, consider it cheap insurance. Changing fluids more often than recommended sure beats not often enough, IMO so guess that makes me OCD too lol. For those that have schedule A and B, all depends on your driving habits and conditions where you live, basically light duty or severe duty.

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Lots of confusion here. My manual does not ever recommend the diff fluid to be changed, only inspected. A dealer in tysons corner va says to change diff and transfer case fluid every 15k and that my diffs were "filthy" at 22k. They have a "special" all three for $450 - every 15k! I will get a second opinion on this at some point soon.
It seems another document from dodge says or used to say 54k or 60k.

Gear oil is pretty stout and in many applications it does not get changed. Other manufacturers say to change diff fluid at 75k or so but most failures seem to be because the diff is out of fluid.

I will probably have transfer case and diff fluids changed at 30k for peace of mind. The lifetime warranty question is interesting. I don't have it but if you did it would be tempting not to change it. If you do not use the dealer for service you MIGHT have to prove the diff fluid was inspected (probably not) but if you did use the dealer they would say to change it at some point and you would be stuck.

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And you are right, there is a difference in the manuals, my printed version does not mention changing the diffs at 60,000. Skips right over it. I'm taking your advice because I too, prefer spending money in smaller increments!

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My dealership wants to change oil at 3,000 miles & my idiot light agreed
I changed to Mobile 1 synthetic & a Wix oil filter & now my idiot light doesn't come on until over 5,000 miles

my dealership kept hounding me to change transmission & differential fluids at 20,000 miles
i got around to it at 42,000 miles & i went with the proper Royal Purple fluids. I even had a complete flush done cooler, torque converter, lines. It is now at least 97% RP ATF
I replaced the rear differential cover with a larger capacity cover that has both fill & drain threaded plugs, the drain plug is magnetized. It is a MAG-Hytech cover
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[QUOTE=ArmyofOne;574993]Of course they do...but I still think you all are misreading...because my 09 manual in .pdf format says this:

Hey Army, how can I get the pdf manual?
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I think that what everyone needs to realize is that ALL manufacturers put the least amount of service that needs to be done to show people how little it is for upkeep on their vehicles. The manufacturer will still question if the vehicle has been serviced if there is a breakdown. Even if the service is not in the manual, the manufacturer can still deny warranty. I have witnessed it firsthand. I think that it is most important to service your vehicle to the specifics to where you live and the kind of driving that you do. I always say to my customers, I have never seen a vehicle break down because it has been serviced too often.
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Of course they do...but I still think you all are misreading...because my 09 manual in .pdf format says this:

Hey Army, how can I get the pdf manual?
You used to be able to get them on the dodge website. Not sure you can anymore.
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