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Old 07-25-2011, 03:15 AM
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Hi all. I have spent the last two hours researching this. I'm actually surprised it took me so long to run across this issue.

What I know (or think I know, lol)....lots of third gen trucks with the 3.92 LSD have issues with c-clips (I think they are called) falling/breaking/wearing off inside the diff. The diff may continue to function normally for a little while or a long while but things inside are actually moving around and wearing in ways that they shouldn't, not to mention the damage that can be caused by the metal shavings and fragments from the broken clips. The damage that can result could be as simple as the clips needing replacement or the gears and even the rear diff housing being damaged and needing replacement. 2005 and older trucks (not sure how far back this goes) may be covered by the factory 7 year/70k mile powertrain warranty which Dodge changed to only 3 years/36k miles starting in 2006. For whatever reason Dodge has decided not to issue a recall.

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Is the summary above correct?

How common is this? I have read a bunch of peeps with this issue with nearly no miles on their trucks. Is this issue nearly a guarantee or does it just sound that way because I am only reading about the folks that have had issues? Is it more prevalent or unlikely in any certain years?

What can you do to help save your rear end, lol? Just pull the cover and see what's going on in there and then repair as needed?

I have read about peeps replacing the stocker with an aftermarket diff like this Detroit Truetrac http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DTL-913A368/ Is this part all that goes inside the pumpkin or are there other gears/parts that would have to be purchased?

I know this thread is long and this is a lot of questions but I am going to have my truck's rear checked soon and wouild like to be educated. Maybe it will compile the info for others in the future as well. Thanks all!!!
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Okay, so is it that this issue is so common and there is so much info that everyone assumes I should be able to look it up myself? Or is it that it really isn't as common as I thought and no one really has any info, lol?
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Okay, so is it that this issue is so common and there is so much info that everyone assumes I should be able to look it up myself? Or is it that it really isn't as common as I thought and no one really has any info, lol?
i have this problem right now, and i surprised for not found any info in ram Z, 2 hours and this is 1 of 3 post, if you have info plis, give me some advise, i found info in dodge talk, but scary me, because i dont want to spend $900 in my differential righ now, sorry for my english,
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C clips falling out is not all that common on factory installed rear ends
it usually takes a lot of use before it happens
that being said, it does happen
maybe that is why most service manuals read that you need to service the rear end every so many miles, like 30,000 miles for instance
Chrysler products like our Rams DANA made 9.25 rear ends don't come with a drain plug, so the whole rear cover (12 bolts) have to be taken off to drain the fluid. The technician then has a clear view of the whole differential pumpkin, the C clips are easy to see, as is the wear pattern of the gears

People who put their vehicle through a lot of stress, like racing or severe off roading, have to check the rear end more often. Some even go with a product called a
C CLIP ELIMINATOR KIT

Any garage that is ASE Certified, would know what to look for
just don't go to an Jiffy Lube, Quick Lube, EZ Lube, Econo Lube & Tune, etc., even if they have an ASE Certified sign, because they stole the sign from somewhere else
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ok just google this: Clutch Pack retaining Clips, and you are gonna find a lots of broken c clips pics, so i dont really whant to know if is a commond problem, just wanna know what happen if i dont change the c clips, in my search someone even say that dont do anything, thats why i ask in here the forum where i find answer all the time. sorry again,
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C clips falling out is not all that common on factory installed rear ends
it usually takes a lot of use before it happens
that being said, it does happen
maybe that is why most service manuals read that you need to service the rear end every so many miles, like 30,000 miles for instance
Chrysler products like our Rams DANA made 9.25 rear ends don't come with a drain plug, so the whole rear cover (12 bolts) have to be taken off to drain the fluid. The technician then has a clear view of the whole differential pumpkin, the C clips are easy to see, as is the wear pattern of the gears

People who put their vehicle through a lot of stress, like racing or severe off roading, have to check the rear end more often. Some even go with a product called a
C CLIP ELIMINATOR KIT

Any garage that is ASE Certified, would know what to look for
just don't go to an Jiffy Lube, Quick Lube, EZ Lube, Econo Lube & Tune, etc., even if they have an ASE Certified sign, because they stole the sign from somewhere else
i think is just in the 9.25 gear
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the RAMS have used the 9.25 DANA rear end for more than 15 years
the ratios can be changed, but the rear end size stays the same

small chrysler vehicles, including the Jeep, used a SPICER/DANA 8.25 rear end

the 8.25 or 9.25 designates the size of the RING GEAR

i can't mention the name of another forum on here, but if you view this google page & look at the 4th site down, you may find out a bit more about C clips
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&xhr=t&q...w=1024&bih=550
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C clips falling out is not all that common on factory installed rear ends
it usually takes a lot of use before it happens
that being said, it does happen
maybe that is why most service manuals read that you need to service the rear end every so many miles, like 30,000 miles for instance
Chrysler products like our Rams DANA made 9.25 rear ends don't come with a drain plug, so the whole rear cover (12 bolts) have to be taken off to drain the fluid. The technician then has a clear view of the whole differential pumpkin, the C clips are easy to see, as is the wear pattern of the gears

People who put their vehicle through a lot of stress, like racing or severe off roading, have to check the rear end more often. Some even go with a product called a
C CLIP ELIMINATOR KIT

Any garage that is ASE Certified, would know what to look for
just don't go to an Jiffy Lube, Quick Lube, EZ Lube, Econo Lube & Tune, etc., even if they have an ASE Certified sign, because they stole the sign from somewhere else
Not to be a dick since I get alotta good info from you and alotta help but my truck does have drain plug in the rear
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