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Old 10-13-2014, 04:40 PM
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I have a 2013 Ram RT. I see a lot of guys put higher stall torque converters on their rams with good results. I know the RT comes with an upgraded torque convertor from the factory (2600 stall I believe?).
My question is, Do you think there would be any benefit to upgrading the TC in my truck to a 2800-3000 stall?
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I dont see it, I mean the R/T alreay has a decent converter, will you see huge gains from spending $900? I bet not.
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You'd get a tighter stall but honestly if you've got the R/T converter then you won't see much difference since it's a looser stall so you'll see a higher RPM anyways. You'd see a bigger difference if you went to a 3200-3400 but then you start affecting drivability.
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thanks for the replies. I will stick with my good ole factory TC then
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I see your truck is a 2013... is it the 8 speed?
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Interesting! I had an Edge 2800 stall in my 2004 Hemi SLT. It had a lot of performance mods & custom tuned by Hemifever. The converter made a big difference in the 545rfe trans without affecting it's street ability. Would my 2014 R/T with the 8 speed have a 2600 stall from the factory? I thought the 392 limited slip differential was the only standard driveline change from the factory on the R/T models.
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The ZF8 speed has a very specialize Torque Converter designed for early lock up,
and has a computer controlled twin torsional damper system.

..in short

There's no aftermarket Torque Converter available to replace it,
and there very likely never will be.

The only difference from a 14' R/T to a RCSB with 8 Speed and 3.92 rear diff
is purely cosmetic now (R/T badge) and 22" Alloy Wheels.
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Black Mamba thanks for the confirmation. That's what I thought was the case, but I do like the features the R/T comes with!!! I'm hoping Ram will offer the higher hp SRT version of the 392 in the 1500, as in the concept a couple years ago, before I get to old to drive!
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my truck is a 6-speed. its my understanding the 6 speed RT's have a different torque converter, while the new 8 speeds use the same tc in all trucks
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my truck is a 6-speed. its my understanding the 6 speed RT's have a different torque converter, while the new 8 speeds use the same tc in all trucks
Yup, well aware

Those R/T 2600 stall TC's have been around since 2009
Although slightly better than the regular 2200 they still have plastic internals (stators)
and the tolerances/clearances are not as good as a custom built unit

Edge or Circle D is still considered a significant upgrade over a stock 2600 stall

I bought my Edge 2800 in 2011 and easily dusted my bud's 09' R/T off the line
Even though he had the lighter truck with 4.10's vs my RCSB 4x4 with 3.55's
(all other mods the same at the time, airaid, magnaflow, BD tuner, 28" DR's)




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The Street Edge is used in applications with up to 600+ HP and is limited to 2800-3000 rpm of true stall. A good choice for the performance minded daily driver, or weekend racer. A torque converter built efficient enough to drive in the city without adding unwanted heat. Impeller and turbine are furnace brazed. The lock up is upgraded to the latest "high carbon" friction. Hardened input splines, computer balancing and custom configuration. The O.E. stator is upgraded (replaced), and the cover is upgraded to billet steel.
Andre at Edge can also adjust your stall speed and STR (stall to torque ratio)
based on your mods and what you want to achieve
(as opposed to a once size fits all based on stock HP/TQ)
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