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Question.... Any idea of the watts to the speakers from the stock amp?

I also have a 2010 300S with the kicker system. It is a really good system...alot better than the Alpine I have in the Ram. But, the kicker system turns down the sub with increased volume. So, I added a 10in kicker in a sealed box. Not enough. Bought a 12in L3 solobaric in a ported box. Not enough. I now have a 13W7. Could not get that thing loud enough to even get noticed lol. So, I replaced my stock radio just so I could feel my sub. Also, the door/dash speakers are all crossed over. So, the best thing to do as was mentioned by Ironchef is to just replace the dash spkrs. This will brighten up the sound alot. If you have to replace the door spkrs, go with separates. Soundstream has a Pro Audio line that offers 6x9 midrange. Alot of people dump on Soundstream but I have been using them since 94. They are cheap too! This is just a suggestion. If anyone needs any advice on audio stuff I am more than happy to help out. I have totally stripped the stock system out of my 300 and replaced it 3 times. About to dig in to the RAM. Just got it last week.
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I went to Crutchfield a perused the 3.5" selections. I was considering the Infinity Reference X REF-3002cfx. They were more efficient 91 db than the JL Audio speakers 83db. Then I noticed Polk Audio db351 at the same 91 db AND a 50% off deal for second set. I was thinking to replace the center speaker also and seems the only way to get 3 is to buy 2 pairs. So I was happy to see the deal. Now after reading your post about the center channel I'm thinking just a pair. When I put the speakers in the Cart it says that the original speakers are 2 ohm and that replacing them with 4 ohm speakers may reduce volume. I had put JL's and Infinity's in my cart a week or so ago and didn't get this pop-up. I'm assuming they are getting customer complaints? Suggestions?
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Update: As I indicated in another thread, I tested both with and without the center channel speaker. But first, a little background as to why. In my opinion, a center channel speaker is beneficial in two scenarios: Cinema/DVD audio or regular music, but in both instances the center has to have DSP to provide just a touch of spatial imaging.

The Alpine center channel though is not DSP modified, but rather a crossed over and combined signal from the left and right channels. This might be better if it was also a speaker rated at a much higher ohm resistance to reduce its volume, but instead it's the same as the dash speakers. The result is an overly loud presence that diminishes the width of the sound stage. My JL Audio C2-350x center channel speaker actually made this situation a little worse.

By removing the center channel altogether, the width of the sound now goes from door to door. Further the newly added tweeters, combined with the reflective property of the windshield, make it so there are no gaps in the sound. In other words, it's like the entire dash is like one big stage where as before, my ears would go to the dead center and stay there.
I know this post is old but it is still valid. I just upgraded my dash speakers to the Infiniti Reference 3032cf model and I noticed a big improvement in frequency range. You can get factory refurbs direct from Harmon Audio for $20 on eBay with full warranty. Great deal. Then I removed the centre channel and the difference is huge. As Ironchef said, the stereo separation is much more apparent and you can fully distinguish between L and R audio. I played Moving in Stereo by The Cars for validation. I am really disappointed in the quality of the "Alpine" speakers. They look just like cheap OEM speakers. Please note that I have already replaced the OEM sub with an aftermarket sub and amp (check my sig). I think the system sounds 100% better now. Although I may try to improve on the mid range frequencies now by replacing the front door speakers. I will keep watching for great advice on this forum.
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I went to Crutchfield a perused the 3.5" selections. I was considering the Infinity Reference X REF-3002cfx. They were more efficient 91 db than the JL Audio speakers 83db. Then I noticed Polk Audio db351 at the same 91 db AND a 50% off deal for second set. I was thinking to replace the center speaker also and seems the only way to get 3 is to buy 2 pairs. So I was happy to see the deal. Now after reading your post about the center channel I'm thinking just a pair. When I put the speakers in the Cart it says that the original speakers are 2 ohm and that replacing them with 4 ohm speakers may reduce volume. I had put JL's and Infinity's in my cart a week or so ago and didn't get this pop-up. I'm assuming they are getting customer complaints? Suggestions?
I always got the warning when placing 4ohm speakers in my cart. The "Alpine" system speakers are all 2ohm. I assume to get more power from the amp.

I went with the Infinity Reference 3032cf model rated at 2ohm. I didn't need to take a chance that replacing my speakers could negatively affect how loud the stereo can get. I have installed them and before I removed my "centre" channel speaker, they were just as loud.
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I ended up put the Infinity Reference 3032cf in the dash. Initially with the center channel playing. (if I had it to do again I would order the Kappa 32.9cf for the higher quality tweeter and power handling) There was a noticeable difference in clarity, depth, punch and brightness. I then bought Infinity Kappa 60.9cs for the front doors and 692.9i's for the back. It was quite a tranformation but did not really come together sound wise until I pulled the plug on the center channel. The stage is much better as well as clarity and depth. The 60.9 cs's made a complete transformation to the mid punch. ( I did not use the supplied crossovers because this channel already has them inline somewhere in the original system) I still need to install the tweeters from the 60.9cs's in the headliner. It's pretty straightforward just haven't had the time yet. The volume still isn't there nor the bass. I figured I'd stick to the lower ohm and higher efficiency speakers to keep as much volume as possible. I think it is a tad louder. It's funny how I took my 2000 from Infinity to an Alpine system and now my 2012 from Alpine to Infinity. If I would have had my druthers I think I would have gone with all Type R's with a PDX-9 and the IMPRINT processor. I just don't have the money or time to go all out, so i decided I'd do a piecemeal approach. I'm happy with the improvements so far. I'm doing wheels and a leveling this week so my audio dollars won't be available for a couple more months. Next will be a JBL Stealthbox, Amp and Processor. Maybe in time for Christmas???

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Nice job. One question though. Couldn't you just replace the center channel speaker with a higher resistance (ohm) one to get the separation you're looking for?

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I'm no audio specialist to answer that. I did notice a big difference disconnecting the center channel (stock speaker) though. I reconnected (left the grill off for several days) it several times playing a large variety of music, rock, classical, jazz, country from a variety of source material. I noticed the degradation in each scenario. That's my old ass ears. Was tinny and muddled especially at higher volumes and the staging was very poor. I need to push the button to cut -6db high frequency for the 6x9's in the rear doors and think that will help even more. There's a big difference in sound with the armrest down and up because the tweeter in the 6x9 from the rear door is hitting my right ear. I may move move the 6x9's up front when I get my amp and processor. I haven't had the opportunity to talk with someone in the know or done much searching on the subject yet. I'm thinking the processor will fix any issues with crossovers and timing once I eliminate the factory speaker wiring/crossovers. The amps will drive the speakers much better and then I can finally have a great sounding system.
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Thanks for all the great info. I thought the Alpine system would sound better than it does. With a little tweeking I can get it to sound decent but not really what I expected. I guess I got spoiled by my stock Bose system in my Lexus. That system was so good it was used to to test final mix on a CD. I'm very into music (worked in the Biz) and good sound but don't have the $$ to do it the way I want right now. I'm thinking of going with a pair of Quality dash speakers and disconnecting the center to start. Then move to Sub, then amp and crossover then replace the doors & headliner. I would love to wake up the front door speakers but replacing them would be a waste until I can get control of the crossover. Does that sound about right?
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I always got the warning when placing 4ohm speakers in my cart. The "Alpine" system speakers are all 2ohm. I assume to get more power from the amp.

I went with the Infinity Reference 3032cf model rated at 2ohm. I didn't need to take a chance that replacing my speakers could negatively affect how loud the stereo can get. I have installed them and before I removed my "centre" channel speaker, they were just as loud.
I went to Crutchfield and they say the 3032cf speaker is 4 ohms??? Am I missing something here?

Infinity Reference 3032cf

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I plan to do this as well in the future. Stock Alpine is ok but not anywhere near what my stock 2010 Dodge Challenger had. JL speaker I find to be the best.
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