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That is completely unexpected.
I wonder if it is wired backward inside the IPM, and the side that we think is batt, is actually the circuit side....Hmmm.
Try the same test at fuses 35, 36 and 38. I wonder if there is some strange connection that we need to know about.
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That is completely unexpected.
I wonder if it is wired backward inside the IPM, and the side that we think is batt, is actually the circuit side....Hmmm.
Try the same test at fuses 35, 36 and 38. I wonder if there is some strange connection that we need to know about.
All of them are showing open on "battery side" and ground on the other side except for 36.. that one is showing ground on both sides..

i test another one of the fuses down that same row.. #19.. with fuse in is shows powers on both sides.. fuse out is shows power on the "battery side" and open on the other.
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Well that leaves us wondering....

Just to verify that we are not going in the wrong direction, can you -
a) Disconnect the battery
b) check for continuity between the Pink/Yel at the ignition switch and Fuse 37. Also check the continuity between that very circuit and ground. I'm of the feeling the IPM has some strange wiring, so want to make 100% sure we don't chase ourselves in circles. LOL
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Well that leaves us wondering....

Just to verify that we are not going in the wrong direction, can you -
a) Disconnect the battery
b) check for continuity between the Pink/Yel at the ignition switch and Fuse 37. Also check the continuity between that very circuit and ground. I'm of the feeling the IPM has some strange wiring, so want to make 100% sure we don't chase ourselves in circles. LOL
okay i'll try that.. might be tricky not sure if my dmm leads are long enough.. gonna have to do some quick extends.
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The other option is to pull the IPM....which we'll will likely do anyway.
Have you ever remove it before?
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The other option is to pull the IPM....which we'll will likely do anyway.
Have you ever remove it before?
Yeah i think i have.. should i pop it out?
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You bet.

Here is the quick blow by blow -

First thing - disconnect the battery.....both leads.
Then remove the battery cable and accessory cable from the IPM

(engine side).

Then remove the 2 mounting screws/bolts.
The first is located on the front of the IPM, engine side. It is a vertical

screw. I believe it is a 10mm socket or T25 torx.
The second is on the front fender side. This is a bolt (horizontal) to

the fender.

Then pull the IPM toward the engine and lift up.
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You bet.

Here is the quick blow by blow -

First thing - disconnect the battery.....both leads.
Then remove the battery cable and accessory cable from the IPM

(engine side).

Then remove the 2 mounting screws/bolts.
The first is located on the front of the IPM, engine side. It is a vertical

screw. I believe it is a 10mm socket or T25 torx.
The second is on the front fender side. This is a bolt (horizontal) to

the fender.

Then pull the IPM toward the engine and lift up.


Sweet! it is out... aside from the plugs on the bottom..
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The connector of interest on the bottom is C5. I believe it is green.

Here is a diagram of the underside -



Depress the locking tab and rotating the connector arm outboard to release the connector.

Once C5 is disconnected, check for 'ground' on the Pink/Yel at the steering column.
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okay.. i disconnected both positive and negative terminals on the battery.. should i hook it back up before i test for ground?
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