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Old 12-14-2011, 10:05 PM
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Glad you are back on the road bro! also nice to hear your dealer took good care of you and got you back in one piece with no problems! thats a dealer I would keep doing business with.
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dang the dealer told me the same thing on my gmc.i got a spider gear rebuild kit for it and it broke agan like a week after i installed it.the pin that goes thru the middle broke and screwed up my ring and pinion gears.their warranty wouldnt cover it cause they said that comes from one tire spinning excessively fast while the other is sitting still.whatever.haha
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yea i donno but i just hope it doesnt happen again
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man thats total bs, because every time u take a turn one wheel turns more than the other, thats the way rear ends are designed (unless its locked) i call bs on that one... theres def something causing all these rear-ends to go in our trucks!
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theres def something causing all these rear-ends to go in our trucks!
It seems everyone is having their pinion nut come loose. The pinion nut has something like 200nm of torque on it. How this comes loose, I don't know. My best guess is, the pinion threads for the nut are undersized not allowing the correct amount of thread engagement (industry standard of at least 65%) on the nut. The nut should have tangs on it which cut into the mounting face when torqued also. That should be a safety factor to prevent it from backing off also. I am betting the pinion diameter (in cast form) was undersized when they cut the threads on the back of the pinion. Once you loose clamp load, the pinion shoots towards the rear of the truck ( you then loose your pinion bearings, thus the crunching) and granades the gear ring into pieces due to interference.

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By the sounds of things, Platinuminjected had a spider gear problem, not a pinion gear problem, and this is the first one I've heard of that has had this problem so I'd be inclined to believe it was a 'defect' in material that was covered under warranty. As the dealer tried to indicate, this is the normal result if you spin one wheel at very high speed while the other wheel is at or near stopped.....something I doubt was the case here.

As for the pinion nut issue, Dodge has delivered over 1/2 million of these trucks, and I have only read about less then 10 with the pinion nut issue here. At what failure percentage is a problem really a problem?

On the forums, we are most likely to hear from the people that have an issue, but do not have the counteracting posts of the ones that don't have an issue. Dodge has this information in their database. If they sell 100,000 truck and 2 have a pinion problem, 3 need the TIPM, and 2500 have a water leak.....they will likely put their efforts in the direction of the water leak, as the percentage is suggesting a real problem exists.

I really hate to see people worry about their truck just because they read about a few instances of a problem on a forum. What I really like is when members like Platinuminjected share their experience that includes the inconvenience of being without your vehicle while the repair is being 'covered under warranty'. This sharing of an experience is great reminder of how much we depend on our vehicles, and offers the reality that at any time, without warning, we could be without our precious Ram for a few days. It IS a technological marvel with thousands of electronic and mechanical parts; anyone of which could have a bad day, and as a result could extend that bad day on to us.

If you buy a brand new vehicle, odds are you will take it in for at least two warranty claims. Could be a minor inconvenience like the glove box latch, or it could be a major inconvenience like a gernaded rear end.

In the end, isn't Warranty GREAT!
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i agree that is a excellent post and it is shitty how things can just happen when ur least expecting it but yes i love warranty but i dont have much left
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man i agree 100% with ur post Brad, but to me it sounds like the same issue alot of other rear ends have experienced, a total grenade of the thing THANK GOD FOR WARRANTY haha. and the dealer saying its cuz of one wheel spinning isnt a "proper"reason, sounds like a "heres a reason, now shut it and leave us alone" type answer thus the reasoning i called BS. When my rear end took a major crap, the dealer had seen 6 within a few months thats a fair amount for a smaller town!

its def a bummer when we dont have our rides thats for sure! and it sucks 100X more when theres something major wrong with them.

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any failure rate like this at a highspeed is a horrible one, god only knows where you and your truck could end up. A 110km semi, and a ram would make an awful mess, but a water leak sure aint bad compared to that.

i know i LOVE forums to find the issues with our trucks, whether its a good experience or a rear-end blow out, thanks to people posting bad experiences it gives us some things to look into while we can still get them covered under our warranty. Just frustrating when we pay thousands and thousands for vehicles and they break, thats a bummer
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I can't disagree that a gernaded rear end at high speeds is a horrible failure to have, and I have read about a few instances where this actually happened (not all were Dodges), and fortunately the damage was restricted to some cosmetic damage to the vehicle. However, statistics have shown that most accidents are the result of the nut behind the wheel, not a nut used to assemble the vehicle.

When you consider the amount of miles we humans spend in vehicles at speeds capable of causing fatality, it's truly amazing the death/injury count is so low. The odds are really not in our favor, so I am quick to compliment the vehicle engineers to assisting us in beating those odds.

And speaking of odds.....Our vehicles are designed by humans, built by humans, (or human built and designed robots), using materials developed and manufactured by humans.
The odds are really staked against us.
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