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#21 ·
cjgerson said:
Donlen updated their site yesterday.

http://www.donlen.com/production-trucks-chrysler.aspx

3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine (EXF) - 10/07/13

3.0L V6 Turbo Diesel Engine (EXF) with 3.92 Axle Ratio (DMH) - 01/13/14
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I just saw this. Middle of January before the 3.92 diesel trucks are going to begin production. I guess I've got plenty of time to work on my down-payment:doh:.
Thunderhorse said:
To the OP: I'd just as soon order. The 8 speeds can be pretty hard to find especially with all the options you want.
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I agree. The 8spd trucks I've seen were usually laramie/laramie longhorn trucks. Not much in the way of big horns or slt trucks in my area. Most of those still have the 6spd.
 
#23 ·
I wonder if 350hp 600 tq will be possible on stock turbo and stock internals, if so then this becomes a real option for me personally. If getting there will take more than tunerr/intake/exhaust then for me I think I would be more happy with the performance of the Hemi (aside from the poorer MPG)
 
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#25 · (Edited)
600 ft/lbs will put you over the torque rating for the 8 speed transmission. It is only rated to 516 ft/lbs
 
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Discussion starter · #26 ·
I'll let you know what comes out of this but tonight I am heading over to the local dealer to check on pricing/availability of the Hemi I want. On top of the employee pricing that I get, there are $5-6k in rebates so I Hemi would be crazy cheap for me right now. I think everything about the Eco Diesel is up in the air right now but in the end the basic summary is the Eco Diesel will obviously get better mpg, should be easier with mods, but will cost a significant amount more. I either save the money and spend it on the difference in gas, or wait it out and spend it up front...
 
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Tshepp said:
I'll let you know what comes out of this but tonight I am heading over to the local dealer to check on pricing/availability of the Hemi I want. On top of the employee pricing that I get, there are $5-6k in rebates so I Hemi would be crazy cheap for me right now. I think everything about the Eco Diesel is up in the air right now but in the end the basic summary is the Eco Diesel will obviously get better mpg, should be easier with mods, but will cost a significant amount more. I either save the money and spend it on the difference in gas, or wait it out and spend it up front...
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Unless you live in Canada where diesel is the same price as regular!
 
#30 ·
Quote from Randomid, "I just have a problem with someone making ignorant statements about something they haven't driven or even seen yet".

Isn't that exactly what forums have evolved to? But you keep plugging at 'em brother.

The gear ratio is still the most important thing for someone wanting to run larger tires.
 
#31 ·
The only advantage i can see to the diesel is someone driving 50K plus annually. The MPG is not that significant and diesel is .50 more per gallon. The torque curve will be nice,but the HP weak compared to the hemi. If it can easily be modded with a chip or box to say 300 to 325 hp that would make it more attractive.
 
#32 ·
f6boomer said:
Quote from Randomid, "I just have a problem with someone making ignorant statements about something they haven't driven or even seen yet".

Isn't that exactly what forums have evolved to? But you keep plugging at 'em brother.

The gear ratio is still the most important thing for someone wanting to run larger tires.
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You're right. Ratio is critical.
rawhide007 said:
The only advantage i can see to the diesel is someone driving 50K plus annually. The MPG is not that significant and diesel is .50 more per gallon. The torque curve will be nice,but the HP weak compared to the hemi. If it can easily be modded with a chip or box to say 300 to 325 hp that would make it more attractive.
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It's a bit more attractive where I live since diesel is usually about 25-30 cents more per gallon.
 
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Lol wow I haven't got below 15 city
 
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rawhide007 said:
The only advantage i can see to the diesel is someone driving 50K plus annually. The MPG is not that significant and diesel is .50 more per gallon. The torque curve will be nice,but the HP weak compared to the hemi. If it can easily be modded with a chip or box to say 300 to 325 hp that would make it more attractive.
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Where I live diesel is typically the same if not cheaper than regular gas. It makes it a much easier decision. I'm waiting for the diesel.
 
#37 ·
skytop said:
Buy the 'standard' Cummins and don't waste your time with a puny little diesel.
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Not really helpful since the OP wants a 1/2 ton truck
 
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#38 ·
skimming through this one.... few things i can say....
35s, hemi, stock gears even with tuner wont spin them (unless wet pavement) ((at least mine wont)

owned the truck 8 months and have 45k miles... MPG with 35s 9-10 city 13-14 highway with tuner its slightly better. lucky to get 15-16 highway city not much change.

I tow haul. and drag shit across the country everything from truckload of gravel. to 28ft race trailers.

with the amount of driving i do, i would jump to the diesel in a heartbeat if i have the chance. driving 25hours straight (detroit to denver w/ 28ft trailer) with a hemi hurts.... the day after she felt like she was going to die, no power no get up nothing... luckily she recovered on the drive to vegas. after ditching the trailer.

there should be a lot of good to come of this diesel, as chrysler owns about half and GM owns the other half ( dont quote me on %s, as i just know both have stake in the company) and Banks has already done significant testing on this engine. Hope it lives up to the RAM name.
 
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