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Old 06-10-2019, 11:59 AM
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The specs on the new Ecodiesel have surfaced and it's good news. The ecoD is available in every trim level including the Rebel. There's not only 60 ftlb more torque and 20 hp more, but the torque comes in at 1600 rpm rather than 2000 rpm as in the previous ecoD.

The peak hp is up pretty high at 3600 rpm's, only the baby duramax peaks hp at a higher rpm: 3750. The baby Dmax has peak torque lower though at 1500 rpms.

The baby powerstroke has peak torque at 1750 rpm and peak hp at 3250 rpm.

The ecoD has the highest torque and 17 hp less than the GM twins but 10 hp more than Ford.

The tow ratings are a big increase, I look forward to the test results on TFL Truck.

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The available payload will break it's neck- it says, it can tow 12000#- but I bet, a trailer that heavy will probably max the available payload out. Beside 12000# with a half as heavy half ton is bit much.
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I agree, I wouldn't tow that heavy with a half ton on a regular basis, but, if I could take a dump trailer to get a few yards of gravel, topsoil, or mulch it would be great. I can do it with a hemi and 3.92 gears, but if I can gain the efficiency of the ecoD, it would be nice.

I also think it would be nice to have the small diesel for towing the camper trips because it is a HUGE pain in the @ss to consistently find a gas stop with a large enough pull through gas pump for my truck and trailer; with the bike racks on back my trailer is about 36' long.

The last ecodiesel was too much of a payload penalty when compared to the hemi and only marginally out-towed a 3.21 equipped hemi truck when the ecoD was paired with 3.92 gears.

I expect to see about a 1500# payload, that seems to be about where it would fall with an SLT trim CC 5'7 bed. The previous ecoD version already has a CGI block, so I don't expect that much weight was trimmed from changing the pistons out in the revised ecoD, but we'll see.
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I was expecting FCA to wait until GM released their output numbers before announcing the next gen Ecodiesel. They're calling this the gen 3 though I don't remember a gen 2.


It is good to see though that the max towing is on par with the Hemi, so it looks like the payload will be the only thing that suffers for the tradeoff of fuel efficiency. Hopefully this new EGR system and the upgrades solve the issues the previous versions had
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It makes me wonder about something .....

If you tow 12,000 lbs, in your State, what drivers license do you need ?

Do you need to cross the truck scales on the highways ?
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in Ontario you can tow up to 10,141 lb on a regular license, after that you need other stuff. They are very specific about the trailer being 10,141 lb (4600kg) or less.
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If you tow 12,000 lbs, in your State, what drivers license do you need ?

Do you need to cross the truck scales on the highways ?
If towing more than 10,001 lbs or a GCWR of 26,001 lbs a CDL A is needed in NH. It also depends on the state laws, typically a truck references a truck used commercially, not privately, so campers are typically not falling under the commercial licensing requirements.
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California also limits Class C drivers to 10,001 pounds

I carry a Class A, but without any endorsements, i dropped doubles & triples, tankers, hazmat, etc.
Heck, i am 75 & i would only be driving a semi if a trucker were to get sick on one the Over Size Loads that i escort & then only if the company can not get another driver in a reasonable amount of time.
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