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I know there are a million tire threads (believe me, Ive read most of them this week) but I was hoping to get some quick feedback from the guys running Cooper Zeon LTZ's.

I was drawn to this tire after reading comments from many happy owners on here. It seems like people are pleased with how they perform and with the look, but I am worried about WEAR and TREADLIFE. Can anyone running these give me some feedback on the treadlife?

I notice that cooper puts a mileage warranty on the Discoverer A/T3 tire, but not the Zeons. That has me concerned to the point where I may go with the A/T3's instead.

Aside from the wear question, I was also to see a few more pics of these tires on the Rams. Any pictures would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 

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The Cooper Zeon LTZ is the best set of tires I've had on any vehicle (even better than the Pirelli's I've had). Look great, perform great, made in USA, and tread wear is great. I have over 15,000 miles on mine and honestly they have basically no wear (even with some chirping of the tires). I've also only rotated them once in that time. About to rotate them again.

I can take pictures this evening to show you how the tread after 15,000 miles.

Here's other pictures of them(265 70 17):













In the last pic the one on the left is one size bigger, don't remember the size off hand...

Here's a pic of the larger size mounted, I opted for the smaller tire:

 

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great pics. great info.

Thanks for those pics. They are much appreciated.

I figured that with the "chunkier" tread pattern the wear would be bad. It is VERY encouraging to hear that is not the case. I also thought the tread pattern would make for a noisier tire on the highway. Do you find they are noisy?

You are obviously very happy with them... Have you run them in snow? How are they in the wet (compared to day the stock Goodyears)?

Thanks again.
 

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They are very quiet and smooth for how aggressive they look, they are very deceiving. I honestly noticed no more road noise as compared to the stock good years.

No I live in FL so no snow, so can't comment there. Also I don't play in the mud so can't comment there. I do work construction and drive in the dirt a lot and they are SO much better than the good years were. I get in some minor mud sometimes on wet days but haven't had any traction issues or got stuck or anything like that. I never got stuck with the good years either but always felt like I was about to.

They are great in the rain for an AT. Much more traction than the good years all around, wet or dry. If I would floor it from a stand still on dry pavement with the good years it would smoke the tires, with these it usually does a chirp and that's it. Every once in a while it'll break loose, I think it just depends on the surface.
 

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Hearing that they are better in the wet than the stock Goodyears is a big bonus. I have never been too picky about tires in the past, but these Goodyears seem to be particularly bad in wet.
 

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Gregster:

I see you have a Sport, so I'm assuming your staying with the stock 20's. Cooper has three tires for our trucks. Cooper Discoverer A/T3, Cooper Zeon LTZ, and this Cooper Discoverer ATP which is exclusively made for Discount Tire. From what I gather scouring the internet, this ATP is kinda a cross between the AT3 and the Zeon when you look at the tread pattern. However, it appears to be made out of similar silica-based material to the AT3, AND comes with the 55k mile warranty. 11BigHornBlue just got a set, and likes them.

Myself, completely confused what I want other than getting rid of my Goodyears with only 4500 miles on them. I damn near got stuck in soft wet grass last weekend having to toss her in 4wd just to move. Wet roads typically yield the ole pucker effect for me.

I'm a believer in these Coopers....read too many positive reviews, and comments from other forum members. Just wished they had raise white letter tires in the 20's. :doh:
 

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Thanks for the info. I'll check those out. I'm up in Toronto, and my dealer only had the at3 and the Zeons.

Like you, Im torn on choosing a tire! As you said, though, there are just TOO many glowing reviews of the tires for them to not be good. I even checked out an f150 and tundra forum, to see what those boys were saying about them. They like em a lot too.

As you mentioned, I have a sport. I wanted an aggressive tire for snow but nothing TOO "chunky". To me, the Zeons are right on the edge between looking aggressive and looking TOO "off road" for my taste.
 

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What set me on the cooper zeons was that I drove onto a site one day and saw about 1/3 of the trucks in the parking lot had them on their trucks. Must be good if so many people are using them...
 

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Well I had about different 3 tires in mind, but I think I'm going to follow your lead and go with the Zeons. Gonna put in a call for a price tomorrow morning. :smileup:
 

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What set me on the cooper zeons was that I drove onto a site one day and saw about 1/3 of the trucks in the parking lot had them on their trucks. Must be good if so many people are using them...
I finally saw a set on a 3rd Gen Ram yesterday on the way home from work. They are even better looking in person. The Zeon LTZ is probably one of the few tires that didn't come with white outlined letter in the 20's that could make it's way on my truck. :smileup:
 

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Thanks for the info. I'll check those out. I'm up in Toronto, and my dealer only had the at3 and the Zeons.

Like you, Im torn on choosing a tire! As you said, though, there are just TOO many glowing reviews of the tires for them to not be good. I even checked out an f150 and tundra forum, to see what those boys were saying about them. They like em a lot too.

As you mentioned, I have a sport. I wanted an aggressive tire for snow but nothing TOO "chunky". To me, the Zeons are right on the edge between looking aggressive and looking TOO "off road" for my taste.
Nice! Sounds like your looking for the same type of tire as me. Looking for that aggressive look coupled with performance in snow, and wet weather traction but nothing too aggressive that is gonna create a bunch of road noise. Zeon seems to a tire that fits that bill.

Please post lots of photos after they get installed, and your thoughts about the tires performance too. :smileup:
 

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Nice! Sounds like your looking for the same type of tire as me. Looking for that aggressive look coupled with performance in snow, and wet weather traction but nothing too aggressive that is gonna create a bunch of road noise. Zeon seems to a tire that fits that bill.

Please post lots of photos after they get installed, and your thoughts about the tires performance too. :smileup:
Lol, yep, you hit the nail on the head about the kind of tire I want. Sounds like you have been reading as many reviews and comparing as many tires as me! :LOL:

The ONLY thing that gave me temporary cold feet on the Zeons was the fact that Cooper put a warranty on their other tires but not the Zeons. That concerned me about th wear life. After reading feedback from several owners here, however, I dont think that's a big issue.

I'll be ordering these on Monday and I will definitely throw a bunch of pics on here as soon as I have them installed. :smileup:
 

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Nice! Sounds like your looking for the same type of tire as me. Looking for that aggressive look coupled with performance in snow, and wet weather traction but nothing too aggressive that is gonna create a bunch of road noise. Zeon seems to a tire that fits that bill.

Please post lots of photos after they get installed, and your thoughts about the tires performance too. :smileup:
HEYBROWNDOG, I wanted to get back to you about the Zeons. I know you had the same concerns as me about them being a bit too chunky for a "sporty" truck. I put them on this week and I am loving them so far. I'll do a new post tomorrow and throw some pics up.

To be HONEST with you, though, they ARE a bit more "offroad" looking than I originally planned. If your heart is set on something more like the Duelet AT Revo2, the Zeon looks much "chunkier".

After all is said and done though, I think it looks really really nice on my Ram. the ride is smooth. My Goodyears were worn out and I never realized how hard the ride had become until I put the new Coopers on.

I also dont notice ANY difference in road noise from the original Goodyears.

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HEYBROWNDOG, I wanted to get back to you about the Zeons. I know you had the same concerns as me about them being a bit too chunky for a "sporty" truck. I put them on this week and I am loving them so far. I'll do a new post tomorrow and throw some pics up.

To be HONEST with you, though, they ARE a bit more "offroad" looking than I originally planned. If your heart is set on something more like the Duelet AT Revo2, the Zeon looks much "chunkier".

After all is said and done though, I think it looks really really nice on my Ram. the ride is smooth. My Goodyears were worn out and I never realized how hard the ride had become until I put the new Coopers on.

I also don't notice ANY difference in road noise from the original Goodyears.

:smileup:

Sweet!!! Can't wait to see the pics. :woohoo:

My heart wants to take a chance on the Coopers. They just seem like a hell of a tire for the money. $200 bucks for a 20" tire ?!?!?! Can't get much better than that. Might be getting them from Discount Tire Direct though.....like 20-22 bucks cheaper than my buddy's cost! Go figure....

I don't mind the chunky off road look. Matter of fact I like it, but I have no interest in picking up road noise, let alone lose MPG's with gas being $4 bucks a gallon. The Cooper would be perfect if I could get the white lettering. Maybe we should start a petition to Cooper...LOL !!!!!:gotmail:

Curious...how many miles did you get out of the OEM Goodyear's?
 

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Sweet!!! Can't wait to see the pics. :woohoo:

My heart wants to take a chance on the Coopers. They just seem like a hell of a tire for the money. $200 bucks for a 20" tire ?!?!?! Can't get much better than that. Might be getting them from Discount Tire Direct though.....like 20-22 bucks cheaper than my buddy's cost! Go figure....

I don't mind the chunky off road look. Matter of fact I like it, but I have no interest in picking up road noise, let alone lose MPG's with gas being $4 bucks a gallon. The Cooper would be perfect if I could get the white lettering. Maybe we should start a petition to Cooper...LOL !!!!!:gotmail:

Curious...how many miles did you get out of the OEM Goodyear's?

I had 73,000km on the Goodyears... They had a bit of tread left but had begun to ride rough and had very very bad traction in the wet. As everyone seems to agree, the Goodyears aren't great in the wet at any time, but I felt like they really dropped off in the last 3-4 months.

I'll tell you straight, the Coopers do not seem to have ANY more road noise than the Goodyears ever had. It is warm today and I had the windows down... No noticeable road noise, even on the highway.

As far as the look goes, I somehow feel that they look a bit chunkier in real life than on the pics I poured over online. Like I said, though, I love the look.

I paid $245 per tire up here. Some of the other tires I priced out were well over $300 each, so I feel satisfied with the price. (we are used to paying through the nose for stuff up here, lol)

I can't say much about fuel mileage yet. Hopefully no worse than the Goodyears...
 
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