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Over a year has gone by since the 2011's were sold and not one company has stepped up with a tuner. Seriously, an online hacker can figure this crap out in 10 minutes. A gamer even.
 
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No, they can't. Otherwise the programmer companies would have done it already.

CJD encrypted the PCM programming and no one has been able to defeat the encryption.
 

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Yea its gotten to the point where you just have to look for alternative horsepower, but the tuner does pull everything together and this sucks.
 
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Yea its gotten to the point where you just have to look for alternative horsepower, but the tuner does pull everything together and this sucks.
And ya can't do a lot besides intake, exhaust, headers, etc...as soon as you install a mod that requires a change to program parameters, yer screwed.

There's a guy on here that put an S/C on his 2011, has codes and can't tune the truck...because no one can get access to the PCM!
 
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A lot of folks did...then they found out what the situation is.

I'm sure they didn't ask the dealer, "Can I install a programmer on this truck???"
 

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They did find a way to tune the 2500's, question is was that a "fooler" box or did they crack the code...if so is it the same encryption? We'll know before long.
 

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I'm ready to summon a code cracker myself and sell it to the tuning companies. I cannot believe its been this difficult, hackers are hacking our most guarded codes, some hackers can break into Fort Knox and they can't get someone to figure out a Dodge ram?
 

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Why would Chrysler care if a tuner is used, so much that they would have the PCM enrcypted like this?
This might be obvious to others, but I think it's a great question. Can anyone answer?
 

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This might be obvious to others, but I think it's a great question. Can anyone answer?
Could it have something to do with increasing performance on something that Chrysler would call optimum, then when a part breaks due to abuse you roll back the stock program and scream "under warranty" at the top of your lungs?

Or the truck has a governor to limit people from going crazy with a big and heavy truck on the highway. The program can over come the governor. I am sure there are a lot of reasons.

Those two just seem to make sense in my mind and I guess I can understand, but I still want more power!
 

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probably another year. i have a 90mm tb & 6.1 intake manifold i wouldn't dare put on until i could tune it.
 

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SRTs engineers' answer is that this way, it gives a chance for the previous models to catch up in terms of performance and reliability. They also gave a couple more excuses that contradicted themselves.

You gotta admit, dodge/chrysler was in last place between the big 3 when it comes to performance and realiability. Its slowly catching up, but they need a chance to sell their vehicles to the point where people wont mod/tune them, and reduce the car's/truck's lifetime. Some people think they can add tons of power to their cars, and they can handle it perfectly with the correct tune. That is completely false. Theres only 1 correct tune (which can be better modded depending on vehicles application and usage) and A/F ratio and everything else only gets close to it. Just cus youre running a perfect 14.1 doesnt mean the rest of the drivetrain can handle the power. Who knows, maybe SRT, is preventing other problems, by making it difficult to hack the pcm. I doubt thats the case, but we dont know until it actually happens. Maybe theyre focusing a little more on reliability over performance in this case. Again, who knows.

Maybe dodge is also looking at the demand of getting their PCM unlocked, and once the demand is high enough, they might sell custom performance tunes from the dealer; this wouldnt void warranties either. Similar to what Ford does with their Boss 302. I think they have 2 tunes available right off the bat for the Boss.

And for those who think a video gamer can do this, is just showing ignorance. If that was true, then whats stopping them? Theyd be making tons more money, by making chryslers PCMs than hacking a video game. Its not like professional tuners are just sitting there waiting for someone to tell them the answers... you guys need to think outside the box, theres a lot more demand already from the challenger and SRT folk, i think RAMs will only have to follow along with whatever happens to Mopar's performance vehicles first :3-smash:
 
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