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Hi and hello

as you can see i have a dtc
i have no exhaust leaks
no vacuum leaks
new o2 sensors
new tps
and i cant get rid of this lean condition
where is the o2 heater relay?
what else could it be?
all the wires are tight in the connection

i gotta get this solved
 

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Hi and hello

as you can see i have a dtc
i have no exhaust leaks
no vacuum leaks
new o2 sensors
new tps
and i cant get rid of this lean condition
where is the o2 heater relay?
what else could it be?
all the wires are tight in the connection

i gotta get this solved
Well I looked into the code on chryslers information and this is the summary that I got (Note: This is being copied right from Chryslers Tech Site.)

THE FOLLOWING IS A GENERIC LIST OF POSSIBLE CAUSES. THE LIST IS PROVIDED AS AN EXAMPLE OF POSSIBILITIES.

SOME OF THESE MAY NOT APPLY TO YOUR SPECIFIC VEHICLE. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DECIDE WHICH COULD APPLY. THIS IS NOT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST : MERELY THE MORE COMMON CAUSES.

1) NOT ENOUGH FUEL -- there is an abundance of left over oxygen in the exhaust after combustion. -- This excessive could be caused by any of the following: TOO LOW OF FUEL PRESSURE-(including restricted fuel pump inlet filter, bad pump, defective pump, restricted fuel filter ) INADEQUATE FUEL VOLUME FROM FUEL PUMP ( Should deliver 1/2 liter in 7 second fuel pump actuation time) RESTRICTED INJECTORS-(both inlet screens and deposits at the injector pintle.) WRONG INJECTORS DEFECTIVE PURGE SYSTEM- (purge system is the source of a vacuum leak)

2) SEVERE ENGINE MISFIRE- although OBDII equipped vehicles have misfire detection; earlier vehicles and heavy duty truck do not. If the cylinder misfires the oxygen will simply pass through the cylinder rather than have combustion occur and the amount of oxygen in the exhaust will be high.

3) PCM IS BEING PROVIDED IMPROPER INFORMATION- If the PCM does not receive proper sensor readings it will not deliver the proper injector pulse width for conditions. The following is a list of sensor problems that could cause a fuel system lean code: COOLANT SENSOR CALIBRATION (sensor is reading much warmer than the actual engine temperature). OXYGEN SENSOR CIRCUIT PROBLEM- ( this includes O2, O2 sensor wiring including the signal, sensor ground, and heater circuit wires the O2 sensor must also be installed tight.)

MAP SENSOR CALIBRATION--One of the most important readings for testing a MAP sensor is the voltage reading obtained with the DRBIII with the ignition on and the engine off. This voltage reading is important because the PCM uses this for calculating barometric pressure. If the PCM does not "know" the correct air density from the MAP sensor (baro. reading) it will have to drastically change the fuel curve through the adaptives to get the proper response from the oxygen sensor. Below is a chart of key on MAP sensor readings for a given elevation.

You should get to know what is normal for your area. Elevation (feet) Baro Reading (in.-hg.) MAP voltage 0 (sea level) 29,92 4.6v 29.67 500 29.42 29.17 1000 28.92 28.67 4.4v 1500 28,42 28.17 2000 27.92 27.67 2500 27.42 4.2v 27.17 3000 26.92 26.67 3500 26.42 26.17 4.0v 4000 25.92 25.67 4500 25.42 25.17 5000 24.92 3.8v VOLTAGE SENSE-- The PCM compensates the injector pulse width based upon charging system voltage. The higher the voltage=> the stronger the magnetic field opening the pintle valve in the injector. The PCM compensates for this condition. If the PCM sense a higher voltage than the voltage applied to the injectors the Fuel System Rich Code could also result.

Again this is just what I found for that code and the possible issues that could cause that code.

Stombo
 

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I THINK I fixed it the 2 keys to it are finding out the right colors of the o2 leads fron tthe wireing harness

second discovering the microscopic numbers on the connector that tells you the orientation of the wires

so far no codes
 
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