[stashu]

I do not know why but I always think aftermarket oil filters are better than the Mopar OEM ones? Anyway I'm looking for the best protection oil filter available. Looking at the Hengst, NAPA Gold--"WIX I think" or plan old OEM Mopar. My V6 takes a cartridge type filter. Never had one that changed from the top of the engine should be fun.

Thanks for any comments.

Stashu

 

[Golem]

Its been several years since I did my research on Oil filters and back then the best performance I could find were the mobile 1 and the purolator "pure one" filters. The royal purple filters werent around then and at a quick glance look impressive. I especially like that the rp lists the particle size that it filters. K and N was also quite good back then just not as good as the purolator and mob 1.

 

[freshane]

Check out wix. That's what mopar filters are.

 

[Bigbird]

A couple of weeks back I did my first oil change using a genuine MOPAR filter. It was really easy to change the filter from the top. You don't need to remove the air inlet cover. There is plenty of room to remove the cap and filter. You will need a 24 mm socket for the cap. One suggertion is to get a white paint marker and mark the cap and base so that you can replace the cap back where it was when you took it off. I'm curious what you are paying for your filters.

I bought mine here.

 

[oilbelcher]

Careful, just because Chrysler sources a filter from Wix, this doesn't mean that Wix filters at autozone are the same. Very possible they are different, and designed to OEM special requirements. May look similar but certain items, material and or design could be different.

I know a little about the filter industry, as an equipment and engine manufacturer that sources some of its filters from filter manufacture (most are made in house).

I strongly suggest you stay with OEM unless you have proof that the aftermarket is better. Do not trust marketing material; everyone will say they are better. You need an engineer to verify. I'm not an engineer, but examining filters cut in half is very telling.

There is a reason that our engineers call "Fram toilet paper in a can" and Wix not that far behind. This was comparing their average aftermarket to some of ours (we are not part of Auto industry so no bias here to what you choose for your truck). Wix may have a premium version, but how does it compare to the OEM spec'd filter? I have no idea and I'm not about to trust some Napa salesman who just wants to flog a bunch of parts.

Stick with OEM even if a few dollars more. It's worth the piece of mind. For filters that filter fluids or air that goes into your engine, it's not worth experimenting with. If you want to experiment with the cabin air filter, at least there is no harm to your truck. The manufacturer does extensive testing with the filter manufacturer for their filter design. Napa and autozone don't do any testing, they just put whatever widget on the shelf and the marketing material given to them by the aftermarket division of the filter manufacturer (which are separate divisions - both marketing and engineering -- than thr filter manufacturer OEM division (that which work with Chrysler, GM , Ford etc).

 

[GTyankee]

I don't know about the 2013/2014 HEMI oil filters, i will research it more when i get my 2015 Ram

I do not know what filter is in the MOPAR/Magneti Marelli oil filter package
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I do know that 2012 & earlier HEMI engine run good on WIX products
WIX 57899
Carquest 84899
NAPA has 2 oil filters listed, Gold & Platinum, FIL 7899 & PFL 47899

I used to use Fram filters on my V-8 Chevys, until i noticed that the oil pressure reading was to low for my liking in a High Performance 350

 

[VectorZ]

I got two Royal Purple filters on E-bay for $23 shipped. Very happy with the quality.

 

[ValleyRacer]

Minor failing of logic there.........

I strongly suggest you stay with OEM unless you have proof that the aftermarket is better.
Stick with OEM even if a few dollars more.Chrysler, GM , Ford etc).

The only problem is - you don't know what OEM really is. MOPAR colored and labeled oil filters on your OEM truck, doesn't mean your dealership has received MOPAR oil filters from that same manufacturer.
EASILY can be a different batch, different spec etc, made here, made overseas etc.

 

[ValleyRacer]

Cartridge Love or hate camp

I do not know why but I always think aftermarket oil filters are better than the Mopar OEM ones? Anyway I'm looking for the best protection oil filter available. Looking at the Hengst, NAPA Gold--"WIX I think" or plan old OEM Mopar. My V6 takes a cartridge type filter. Never had one that changed from the top of the engine should be fun.

Stashu

Remember, MOPAR doesn't make oil filters. Neither does motocraft or DELCO (GM brand etc) - they are sourced, colored. labeled and packaged by another manufacturer - usually WIX, FRAM or Champion labs. Without a package statement, they could be made in China!
As a cartridge (insert) filter goes - give the Hengst a try; for sure, they aren't from FRAM!

 

[Speed 1B]

I run wix.

 

[RaceHillFarms]

I do not know why but I always think aftermarket oil filters are better than the Mopar OEM ones? Anyway I'm looking for the best protection oil filter available. Looking at the Hengst, NAPA Gold--"WIX I think" or plan old OEM Mopar. My V6 takes a cartridge type filter. Never had one that changed from the top of the engine should be fun.

Thanks for any comments.

Stashu

It is my understanding there are no aftermarket filters for the 2014 Pentastar engines yet. That means you need to buy the Mopar filter and the part number 1-68191349AA or MO-349.

As far as I can tell from the Mopar box this filter is made in America.

 

[RaceHillFarms]

It appears Fram has released a replacement oil filter for the 2014 Pentastar engines.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrysler-Do...AA-MO349-/171377775354?_trksid=p2054897.l5658

or you can buy the Mopar OEM filters.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331235668209?lpid=82

 

[GTyankee]

check out ROCKAUTO to see what works with your Ram
http://www.rockauto.com/

maybe .... from 2011 - 2013 in most Chrysler/Jeep 3.6L
Ram 1500 in 2013, not for the 2014 Ram

WIX 57526

Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 57144, 61857144, CH10955

MOPAR Part # 68079744AC

FRAM Cartridge full flow Part # CH10955

Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): 05184526AA, 5184526AA, 68079744AA, 68079744AB

MAHLE Part # OX786D Filter Cartridge

MOTORCRAFT Part # FL2065 {#EU2Z6731E}

PRONTO Part # PO6135
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2014 Ram 1500 3.6L

WIX Part # WL10010

FRAM Part # CH11665

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source unknown....... other notes on 1 sellers website

Manufacturer Part Number:
CH11665
Brand:
Fram
Interchange Part Number:
OE# 68191349AA Mopar MO-349 Hengst E721H
Country of Manufacture:
United States
Other Part Number:
Champ/Luber-finer P1009 Purolator L36296

New Fram CH11665 Oil Filters that may fit Chrysler, Dodge & Jeep vehicles depending on application. Replaces OE# 68191349AA & MO-349.

 

[oilbelcher]

The only problem is - you don't know what OEM really is. MOPAR colored and labeled oil filters on your OEM truck, doesn't mean your dealership has received MOPAR oil filters from that same manufacturer.
EASILY can be a different batch, different spec etc, made here, made overseas etc.

Not sure I follow this logic. The auto companies do not make filters. They all source from filter manufacturers. There isn't that many global filter manufacturer brands -- maybe 5-6 major ones. All major filter manufacturers produce in multiple places around the world. All these filter brands have locations in China. Production can be high quality in any part of the world with good process and materials, quality checks etc. Production quality can be poor in any location, if poor execution of production process.

The auto OEMs have very high standards they place on their filter manufacturers. They are usually designs specific to the auto company, that is produced by the filter company. A Ford filter made by Wix is not the same as any standard Wix filter. A John Deere filter made by Donaldson is not the same as a standard Donaldson filter. The only assurance to getting the quality needed is to purchase the Chrysler/Mopar, GM or Deere (in this example) from a reputable source - in a factory sealed container.

You are gambling if you choose aftermarket. Use at your own risk.

Me, I will be using only Chrysler/Mopar filters. The only filter I will use a non Chrysler brand is the fuel filter, where I will use the proven and tested Caterpillar filter rated at 2 microns. It is one of the best filters in the industry and far better than the Auto OEM filter. I have actually viewed this filter cut in half -- no comparison to a standard fuel filter. I simply worry about crap fuel stations, and will use this for extra insurance. Fuel injectors are expensive...

 

[ValleyRacer]

How did you determine this?

The auto companies do not make filters.

IF I'M WRONG - JUST TELL ME WHERE THE "AUTO COMPANIES" make their oil filters.

The auto OEMs have very high standards they place on their filter manufacturers. They are usually designs specific to the auto company

HOW DID YOU DETERMINE what "high standards" are in effect for oem oil filters?


Me, I will be using only Chrysler/Mopar filters.

Mopar doesn't make filters - they are rebranded, reboxed from Champion labs etc

You're a victim of marketing hype and brand identification

 

[Rambunkshuss]

Ya`ll can do or say as you need, but i`ll side with oilbelcher on this OEM vs aftermarket issue.
If you think a MoCo is going to put 2nd rate or aftermarket oil filters that HAVEN`T been engineered AND tested for their vehicles, think again. No warranty issues addressed when using OEM filters. If the OEM filters were that bad, do you really think they would be installing them in the first place, and then warranty a bunch of blown/seized engines...???... i think not. I`ve never had a OEM oil filter let me down. (my dodge shop truck @ 260,000 using OEM filters) To sit here and say one is better than another, do an oil analysis test. I`m good with OEM oil filters, and i dont have to wait to get one shipped to me either.

Marketing Hype Marketing Hype Marketing Hype
Never believe what you read, and only believe in 1/2 of what you see

 

[Red-Stripe]

I guess I view the quality "trust" issue 180 degrees out from some here.
Instead of a car company picking a good filter for me, I trust a good filter manufacturer to make good filters, and I stick with that company.
In my preference it's the P1's from Purolator. I have the P1's on everything I own.
PL24651 on my Hemi.

 

[oilbelcher]

Mopar doesn't make filters - they are rebranded, reboxed from Champion labs etc

You're a victim of marketing hype and brand identification

I'm not falling for any marketing hype. Read my first sentence -- auto co's do not make filters. Mopar is just Chrysler's brand of parts. Mopar=Chrysler where all part come from same suppliers. Mopar therefore is not aftermarket. It is auto OEM.

If you believe aftermarket filters via napa/autozone/walmart are a good value proposition with no risk, you are falling for marketing hype. I know enough about the filter and auto parts industry that I'm trying to share unbiased knowledge based on facts and data. I don't work in either the filter industry or automotive, but rather and adjacent industrial goods manufacturer that works extensively with the filter companies. My company also did a study of the automotive industry since they were non competitive.

There is no marketing hype behind saying an OEM filter made by a filter company designed to automotive requested specifications will meet engine requirements. This is a fact, and one that aftermarket companies can only claim, and up to you to believe and prove. I know enough about the filter and parts industry that I won't take that risk.

 

[Red-Stripe]

If you believe aftermarket filters via napa/autozone/walmart are a good value proposition with no risk, you are falling for marketing hype.

I thought your earlier posts mentioning end retailers was by chance, but I'm convinced now, that you keep posting that way for your personal agenda.

Please try to be somewhat factual, and address oil filter companies by the oil filter company names, not be the end retailer. The retailer doesn't make it, and you know that.

 

[oilbelcher]

I thought your earlier posts mentioning end retailers was by chance, but I'm convinced now, that you keep posting that way for your personal agenda.

Please try to be somewhat factual, and address oil filter companies by the oil filter company names, not be the end retailer. The retailer doesn't make it, and you know that.

Yes I can help with that. I have no personal agenda and do not benefit either way by choice. Just want to help people understand risk.

Yes, no distributors and no auto companies make filters. There are only about 5-6 major filter companies. Part of my point is that aftermarket parts distributors -- source their filters from the same 5-6 filter companies but from their aftermarket divisions. The auto companies source from the same 5-6 filter companies but from the OEM division. These divisions in the filter companies are different. The auto, industrial goods, aerospace, food industry etc, partner with the filter companies to make OEM spec filters.the OEM company has filter engineers that work with the filter company engineers to create specific designs. Sometimes the filter company owns the technical design rights and other times the OEM owns the rights. Either way, the filter manufacturer does not sell these exact filters to their filter manufacture aftermarket division. Therefore the aftermarket distributor (any distributor that is not the auto OEM dealer) is selling different filter designs.

Occasionally a OEM will choose to take a filter "off the shelf" of the filter manufacturer. In this case, the filter may be the same, but you and I have no way of determining this. In the case if the Eco Diesel filter, because there is very little information out there, this is a unique design that Chrysler designed with the filter company.

Examples of major global filter companies: Donaldson, Wix, fleetguard, Sojefi, Fram, Mann & Hummel. There is probably a couple more medium size filter manufacturers but these are the big ones. These filter companies have multiple brand names, for their aftermarket divisions, and sell through napa walmart et al (names don't matter). These are the filter companies that the auto companies go to for a design that meets the auto specs, and then these filters are branded to OEM brand like BMW Mopar/Chrysler etc. some filter focus more on cost and high volume while others on quality and uniques designs with higher performance.

I am trying to be educational since I studied this industry while in a previous job at an industrial OEM, so if any of this is unclear please let me know. Happy to share information. I have no agenda. If saying that if you own is VW buy VW filters, if own a ford buy ford filter because you are guaranteed to get design specs that the OEM intended is biased, then buy the after market filter and ignore this thread. For me it is cheap insurance and piece if mind to get consistent quality, and I'll worry about other things.