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Hey everyone, new to the site and just wanted to let everyone know what i got. Live in the valley in TX, and went to Houston 2 weeks ago, came back with a big bad 2001 Dodge ram. It is black, (4)door sport model. It has the 5.2 auto and looks great. Runs great... (while i was in Houston) lol.

Ok so problems start when i get the Truck back home.

Got to Houston in my 2008 dodge avenger, bought my truck up there and rented a u-haul to pull my car back. truck ran good, loved everything about it, pulled the car dolley loaded like as if nothing. everything was perfect..... Then......
i got to a town called Falfurrias 1 hr away from home.(took it all the way with the O/D turned off)

First the check engine light turned on,.... i decided to have it diagnosed at autozone later in the wk. then 2 days later i go to school and i floor it on the way over there... truck picked up speed awesome i was surprised. get to school,... *learn* lol and then when it was time to go home the truck would get stuck in first gear and wouldn't jump out till 3800rpms or till i romped or floored the truck and let off it would shift. the other shifts are usually good but the first to second is the worse.
took it to autozone and the check engine light code was for TCC Transmission Solenoid

so don't know what to do or what to buy.... i decided to reset the battery and i bought a bottle of transx for the tranny... transmission is doing a lot better,, and usually shifts good but i have to keep the rpms under 2k.

any ideas?


also the other day it started smoking for no reason... then it just stopped.
weird truck.

its a 2001 5.2 with 120k miles.

thanx and any help would be greatly appreciated..
while in houston before i got home i put lucas fuel treatment, also i got 13mpgs on the way home pulling my car back,... and after 2 weeks of driving it w/0 trailer i still avg 13 mpgs???? damn that is too much of a gas guzzler for me. First truck owner also so... is this normal?
i changed the oil and air filter in houston before i came back and tires are fully inflated to 35psi and i have a light foot.


sorry for such a long post hahahah. thanx guys
 

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Hmmmm.....:thk: I dont know what to tell ya cuause my truck does the same shifting thing...lol
 
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TCC faults are common. Call a dealer to find out what needs to be done to replace the TCC solenoid.

My '99 with the 5.2 and auto trans never threw this code so I'm sorry I can't be more help than that.
 

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hello and welcome, ^^^^listen to MD^^^^
 

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The late 1-2 shift could be a burned out 2nd gear . Tcc solenoid shouldn't effect that . Smokin ? Could be the typical intake plenum gasket gone bad , anything leaking externally and hitting the exhaust , trans overheating and boiling out the trans vent . Kinda hard to diagnose something like this over the net .
 

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Sorry you are having problems with the truck already! Ill start off by saying that I do not know alot about the Transmission probs. I would try and talk to a mechanic about it before anything else. 2nd I do know that 13mpg is about right. I get 11-13 PERIOD. Interstate, around town, flooring it, babying it. 11-13 thats it.
 

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come to think of it tom... i forgot to mention that also the day it was smoking i was coming home from school and right as i pulled up into my neighborhood the trans temp light came on. parked the truck and i got underneath and the transmission smelled funny (burn) and was just about steaming, but not quite. as far as the intake plenum gasket... i have no idea. and as far as the mpg... wow that sucks... my 08 avenger gets 26! lol.
 

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what exactly is TCC? and as far as the solenoids i found some online at a really good price,..Governor Pressure Solenoid 2000 and up Ram
$49.96 Best Buy - http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/A500_46RE_A618_47RE_48RE_Transmission_solenoid_p/530-000053396.htm
Governor Pressure Sensor 2000 and up Ram
$44.09 Best Buy -
http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/A500_42RE_A618_46RE_Transmission_governor_p/530-00053397a.htm
OverDrive and Lock up Solenoid Set for 2000 and up Ram
$54.00 Best Buy - http://www.transmissionpartsusa.com/A500_618_overdrive_lockup_solenoid_p/530-00053392d.htm

i can also buy the replacement transmission fluid (ATF+4 i think) and the transmission gasket and the gasket that goes between tranny and engine for another 100 bucks.

i have a friend who will charge 400 for labor... plus the 150 for solenoid/sensors and another 100 for the gaskets and fluid...

so about 700... would that be a good price? how about just rebuilding?
or how about scrapping the tranny and getting a better one? any price ideas?
 

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tranny has been actin normal... such a weird truck hhahah. i guess the transx transmission additive helped out. sometimes i have to let off to get it to shift into 3rd or 4th... but it doesn't hit the trans temp light on anymore, and i haven't had a check engine light turn on.... so i dunno.... but i do know i need to replace the ball joints... upper/lower and both sides. :/ damn... sounds like my truck is a old squeaky bed. :p
 

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I can tell you one thing. Those trucks are terribly common for transmission govenor pressure sensors and solonoids. I'm a chrysler mechanic and bak when those trucks were common to come in we changed them weekly for similar issues. They are dead simple to change and not ussually to expensive. The TCC solonoid however isn't all that common and I can't see causeing that issue. Another issue I have ran into which is unlikely your trouble is the intermediate band gets worn out and out of adjustment and can cause a delayed one-two shift. Some time's the band get's so far out of adjustment the actuator rod falls out and you get absolutely no second gear.
 

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Oh, and I'll add. The intermediate band is also dead simple to adjust. You don't even have to take the pan off. The adjustment screw is on the outside of the case.
 

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hey cormac thanks for all the info... ok so the adjustment screw is on the outside? where can it be located? driver side or passenger side? also do you know of any write ups for this swap... tcc solenoid and govenor and pressure solenoids. my brothers have dropped a few transmissions in there time and said it wouldn't be too big of a deal so i would really like to know how to do it because i could really save the money on labor instead of paying somebody.

a friend of mine wants to charge 400 plus parts to replace transmission pan gasket and to drop the transmission and change the seal that is between engine and tranny cause i have a leak there...

plus i haven't even mentioned that i want to change out those govenors lol...
 

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Here is the band adjustment procedure. It is for both bands but the front band will be the cause of the issue. The rear band may still need adjustment but it is more work to adjust. The rear band is used for LOW/REVERSE.


ADJUSTMENT - BANDS

FRONT BAND

The front (kickdown) band adjusting screw is located on the left side of the transmission case above the manual valve and throttle valve levers.

Raise vehicle.
Loosen band adjusting screw locknut (Front Band Adjustment Screw Location). Then back locknut off 3-5 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in case. Apply lubricant to screw threads if necessary.
Tighten band adjusting screw to 8 N·m (72 in. lbs.) torque with an appropriate Torx™ socket.
CAUTION: If Adapter C-3705 is needed to reach the adjusting screw, tighten the screw to only 5 N·m (47-50 in. lbs.) torque.

Back off front band adjusting screw 2-7/8 turns.
Hold adjuster screw in position and tighten locknut to 41 N·m (30 ft. lbs.) torque.
Lower vehicle.

REAR BAND

The transmission oil pan must be removed for access to the rear band adjusting screw.

Raise vehicle.
Remove transmission oil pan and drain fluid.
Loosen band adjusting screw locknut 5-6 turns. Be sure adjusting screw turns freely in lever.
Tighten adjusting screw to 8 N·m (72 in. lbs.) torque (Rear Band Adjustment Screw Location).
Back off adjusting screw 2 turns.
Hold adjusting screw in place and tighten locknut to 34 N·m (25 ft. lbs.) torque.
Position new gasket on oil pan and install pan on transmission. Tighten pan bolts to 13.6 N·m (125 in. lbs.) torque.
Lower vehicle and refill transmission with Mopar® ATF +4, Automatic Transmission fluid.
 

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Instructions for Govenor Pressure Sensor and solonoid removal and installation...

REMOVAL


Hoist and support vehicle on safety stands.
Remove transmission fluid pan and filter.
Disengage wire connectors from pressure sensor and solenoid

Remove screws holding pressure solenoid retainer to governor body
Separate solenoid retainer from governor.

Pull solenoid from governor body
Pull pressure sensor from governor body.
Remove bolts holding governor body to valve body.

Separate governor body from valve body.
Remove governor body gasket.


INSTALLATION

Before installing the pressure sensor and solenoid in the governor body, replace o-ring seals, clean the gasket surfaces and replace gasket.

Place gasket in position on back of governor body
Place governor body in position on valve body.
Install bolts to hold governor body to valve body.

Lubricate o-ring on pressure sensor with transmission fluid.
Align pressure sensor to bore in governor body.
Push pressure sensor into governor body.
Lubricate o-ring, on pressure solenoid, with transmission fluid.
Align pressure solenoid to bore in governor body.
Push solenoid into governor body.

Place solenoid retainer in position on governor.
Install screws to hold pressure solenoid retainer to governor body.

Engage wire connectors into pressure sensor and solenoid.
Install transmission fluid pan and (new) filter.
Lower vehicle and road test to verify repair.


Here's a picture with the pan off looking up...


1 - PRESSURE SENSOR
2 - PRESSURE SOLENOID
3 - GOVERNOR
 

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WoW. :D Nothing short of AMAZING....
sounds very easy for replacing the sensor and solenoid...
but about adjusting the bands sounds a little complicated... im guessing cause i don't own a (torx) tool. do you really need it?

if i have a delayed 3-4 shift would this also help and fix the problem?

because my 1-2 works good now, shifts at about 1900 rpms at around 15mph 2-3 works pretty good (ok) at a little over 30 mphs and 3-4 works if i let off the gas at around 45 mphs or around 2100rpms.... but i just don't trust it to shift on its own so i have to let off the gas for the 2-3 shift and the 3-4 shift.

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If the govenor pressure is not right it will cause all kinds of shifting issues, includeing what you describe. But there can also be a few more issues that could cause it. But the govenor pressue if by far the most common.
 

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would it be best just to replace the govenor pressure solenoid and pressure sensor since im gonna have the trans pan off anyways? plus i need the new oil and filter correct? where can i purchase the filter? like at autozone or would it be an online order item? sorry for all the questions cormacs haha.
 

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A place like autozone should have a transmission filter. If the sensor and solonoid were cheap I would go ahead and replace them.
 

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i can get both the sensor and solonoid for just about a 100 dollars... and well the filter at autozone for $???$ and the oil at the dealership for $???$

plus i still need the seal... but at least i have the info and know how thanx to you.
 

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hey man! I know how you are feeling!! i blew out my rear end last year and from there my truck never wanted to really run right..so i decided to change my torque converter instead of rebuilding the tranny..well then i went and pulled a heavy boat and my truck hated it...threw every light you can imagine...then i figured out the actual problem...exactly what you have. my truck wouldnt shift from 1 to 2 until 3800-4000 rpms..and i was getting like 7-8 miles to the gallon, except on the highway it was perfect... so i asked on here, everyone is telling ya the truth...Governor Pressure sensor and the solenoid will need to be replaced! SUPER EASY!!! pull the pan off the tranny, and i would put a new filter on..its right next to the filter, you just have to remove a small bracket and they pop right now. I had to get my parts at DODGE because they are dealer parts..and it cost me about 140 bucks (give or take)...but after i did this, and i am not the best at mechanical stuff and it took me about 30 min to do...the truck ran better than it has in a long ass time... hope it works out for you ...good luck.
 
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