[Whiskey26]

Ive been reading and searching as much as I can and it seems to be 50/50 so I decided to start a thread on it. I know the issue of leveling is beating a dead horse. Im looking for opinions on the (crank the torsion bars and buy longer shocks) VS the (buying torsion bar keys, an unloading tool, and longer shocks.) I know both will require a trip to the allignment shop. I have a seperate vehilce set up strictly for off road/crawling so I am not planning on a lift and tire much bigger. I just cant seem to find the advantage of buying keys (and having to buy the unloader) when some say its the same as cranking. I just want it level and dont want to spend more than I have to if the end result is exactly the same. Any help appreciated.

 

[trentowens92]

idk if it is or isnt possible to mess anything up,but from personal experience,i have had mine cranked up 4 turns for over a year now,and had no issues.i also have a buddy who has his cranked ALL the way up,been that way for 3 years,and no issues either.

i dont see why not.

 

[Whiskey26]

What shocks did you go with?.. When buying them did you get them for a 1"-3" lift.??

 

[NWRQC]

Indexed torsion keys are a rip off unless you plan to crank your front up to a solid front suspension. Crank your stock torsions (keys) to your liking, remember the more you crank the stiffer it gets (stock or aftermarket keys). Buy the shocks to match the amount you cranked... drive on. Save your money on the aftermarket keys and tools.

 

[Whiskey26]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I got the itch today and went ahead and cranked them about 3 and a half turns. Gained a lil over an inch and have about an inch left. Drove it tonight and could not notice any appreciable difference in ride quality. IM going to go up that last inch and replace my shocks. I am satisfied with it.

 

[MadSoul87]

ok, dun mind this stupid question, but please do answer lmao. i got an '05 as well.. how the hell i crank the stock keys up and if i do crank em up all the way how do i know which shocks to go with? am eventually lifting but wouldn't mind having this thing sit a little more level til then..

 

[trentowens92]

there is a bolt you have to tighten on them and it tightens them up, but im not sure how to explain it.when i get home this afternoon ill try to figure out how to post up a pic of the bolt,if you dont have a answer by then

 

[MadSoul87]

thanks much trent. have off work today so usually take my days off to tweak the truck or clean it up, whichever seems to fit. wouldn't mind leveling it off today though if i can. what would the damage be if i cranked it up two inches and left the stock shocks? i'm more of an engine savvy guy then i am suspension lol

 

[trentowens92]

technically idk what problems it may cause down the road but I cranked mine 4 turns for a year now.no issues to now

 

[Whiskey26]

ok, dun mind this stupid question, but please do answer lmao. i got an '05 as well.. how the hell i crank the stock keys up and if i do crank em up all the way how do i know which shocks to go with? am eventually lifting but wouldn't mind having this thing sit a little more level til then..

I cranked mine 3 and 1/4 turns and gained a little over an inch. I lowered it back down to stock until I can buy the shocks for 1-3 inches of lift. Then I will crank it up to my target gain of 2 and 1/2 inches and take it for an allignment so I dont chew up my new tires. As for the bolts I took a before picture, and pictures of the bolts and posted them in my other thread. http://www.ramforumz.com/showthread.php?t=102046 They are located right under your extended cab.

 

[MadSoul87]

awesome thank ya much. will have to take a look underneath and give em a look over. hoping to put my lift on in 3-4 months but i still would like to get rid of some of the nose down appearance

 

[MadSoul87]

found em. know exactly what i need to do.. now i just need to go get a darn breaker bar and some WD-40 lol. project for tomorrow after work i think

 

[Ramfd]

it will work a bit better if you put the front end on a jack and lift it off the ground. this unloads the front end a you can crank on the torsion bars easier. just do it in small increments and check both sides to make sure you get them even. i had mine cranked about 2 inches on my 03 and kept the stock shocks and never had any issues with it.

 

[MadSoul87]

awesome info. thanks Ramfd. think this will def be done tomorrow

 

[Whiskey26]

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Dont be suprised if you dont have it jacked up after a few cranks you dont have any measureable gain. I didnt have mine lifted in the front when I started cranking. I remembered to jack it up in the front and unload the suspension. When I let it back down the gain was there.

 

[MadSoul87]

rained and sleeted all day so will probably do it tomorrow. will take a before and after picture. my buddy did the same thing to his '03 QC HEMI and he said it made his ride rougher but like me he is only doing it to hold over until the funds come in for the 5 or 6 inch lift lol.. question though if anyone knows.. how big tires can fit underneath once i crank up the torsion bars 2 inches?

 

[Whiskey26]

I think there are some sticky threads on tire and wheel sizes and the amount of lift needed. Mine are a very mild 32" but Iknow I would have no problem with 33's.

 

[MadSoul87]

gotcha. will look into it. was going to just buy a leveling kit, but attention got pulled elsewhere. found a guy selling a Dynatech LT header set for $100 so am just waiting to pick them up and then I'll get a level.. or just deal with stock height until level lol.. hm or crank the torsion and get an allignment when I have the truck up working on the headers.. hmmm.. will let ya know lol

 

[ramoreno]

Hi, when you crank the t-bars remember go to a little ride in the truck for everithing sit in place, measure again to the correct high. Crank your t bars is easy and free and only take like 10 min. and you can always go to stock high. And is the same stress for the t-bars. If you gonna try, is a video in you tube from a H3 is the same thing.