I had to slam the brakes on the other day and the engine stalled. When I started it back up, I had no power steering whatsoever. The pump is making a horrible sound. I unhooked the HP line from the gearbox and started the engine, and the line spewed fluid as if the pump was fine, and the pump ceased making any unusual noises. Upon hooking the HP line back to the gear box, the sound returned and still no power steering. Is there a blockage in the gearbox? If so can it be removed? I noticed when removing the HP line from the gearbox that there was a plastic tube that feeds into the HP line from the gearbox...there was a kink in this tube and some fraying...i.e. it may have a split in it. I am not sure what to do and I don't want to take it in until I have exhausted all cheaper options...i.e. doing it myself. Any help would be appreciated.
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I had to slam the brakes on the other day and the engine stalled. When I started it back up, I had no power steering whatsoever. The pump is making a horrible sound. I unhooked the HP line from the gearbox and started the engine, and the line spewed fluid as if the pump was fine, and the pump ceased making any unusual noises. Upon hooking the HP line back to the gear box, the sound returned and still no power steering. Is there a blockage in the gearbox? If so can it be removed? I noticed when removing the HP line from the gearbox that there was a plastic tube that feeds into the HP line from the gearbox...there was a kink in this tube and some fraying...i.e. it may have a split in it. I am not sure what to do and I don't want to take it in until I have exhausted all cheaper options...i.e. doing it myself. Any help would be appreciated.
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Roger that...is this a difficult task? Do I have to remove the gearbox? Perhaps I can find a video on youtube. I have a job with the forrestry service in a few weeks and need to haul my RV up to Wisconsin...I got to get this fixed as cheaply as possible or turn down the job. Thanks for your reply brother. BTW, the plastic comes from the gear box and feeds into the HP line. Replacing the HP line will not replace the plastic tube.
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This is the similar issue I'm talking about.
Case Number: S1119000007
Release Date: 09/17/2011
Symptom/Vehicle Issue:
Power Steering Honk or Hiss May Be Heard During Brake Applications.
Diagnosis:
Customers may complain of a noise (honk - sometimes coupled with a hiss during brake applications) during low speed parking lot maneuvers. If you have this complaint, please perform the following:
Repair Procedure:
1. Inspect the steering column intermediate shaft boot is in position and not making noise from rubbing on the shaft. If there is a noise when turning the steering wheel, adjust the boot appropriately and verify the noise is no longer present.
2. If the noise is still present, perform a steering system bleed procedure outlined on TechCONNECT >Service Info>19-Steering>Pump>Standard Procedure>Power Steering System Bleeding and verify the noise is no longer present.
3. If the noise is still present, verify that the pressure hose (to hydro-boost) internal tuner (white plastic hose) has not become dislodged and positioned into the hydro-boost, to do this disconnect the pressure hose from the hydro-boost and see if white plastic tube is protruding from the pressure hose. If it has, replace the hose*, bleed the system of air and verify the noise is no longer present.
NOTE: WHEN RETURNING THE HOSE TO THE CHRYSLER WARRANTY CENTER, PLEASE RETURN THE ENTIRE HOSE INCLUDING THE WHITE PLASTIC TUNER ELEMENT THAT HAS BECOME DISLODGED.
4. If the noise is still present, replace the steering gear and bleed the system and verify the noise is gone.
Case Number: S1119000007
Release Date: 09/17/2011
Symptom/Vehicle Issue:
Power Steering Honk or Hiss May Be Heard During Brake Applications.
Diagnosis:
Customers may complain of a noise (honk - sometimes coupled with a hiss during brake applications) during low speed parking lot maneuvers. If you have this complaint, please perform the following:
Repair Procedure:
1. Inspect the steering column intermediate shaft boot is in position and not making noise from rubbing on the shaft. If there is a noise when turning the steering wheel, adjust the boot appropriately and verify the noise is no longer present.
2. If the noise is still present, perform a steering system bleed procedure outlined on TechCONNECT >Service Info>19-Steering>Pump>Standard Procedure>Power Steering System Bleeding and verify the noise is no longer present.
3. If the noise is still present, verify that the pressure hose (to hydro-boost) internal tuner (white plastic hose) has not become dislodged and positioned into the hydro-boost, to do this disconnect the pressure hose from the hydro-boost and see if white plastic tube is protruding from the pressure hose. If it has, replace the hose*, bleed the system of air and verify the noise is no longer present.
NOTE: WHEN RETURNING THE HOSE TO THE CHRYSLER WARRANTY CENTER, PLEASE RETURN THE ENTIRE HOSE INCLUDING THE WHITE PLASTIC TUNER ELEMENT THAT HAS BECOME DISLODGED.
4. If the noise is still present, replace the steering gear and bleed the system and verify the noise is gone.
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I tugged on the plastic tube but it seems to be lodged into the gearbox. I didn't want to pull to hard until I knew what was going on. It only fed into the hp line about 5 inches, the rest is in the gear box...is this normal? I am new to this issue. The only thing I have ever done with power steering is replace a belt.
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It figures...it must have gotten pushed in by the pressure and binded into something. I'm going to tug the hell out of it, but if it doesn't come out, then what? Take the whole thing apart or replace the gearbox? This sucks man. All my travel money is about to go up in smoke. Thanks for the info brother...I appreciate it. If I was young again, I would go back to combat...that is work I know how to do. Anyway, thanks. Oh one more thing...am I right to assume the plastic tube belongs in the HP line and not the gearbox? Or is it suppose to feed into the gearbox?
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I got to drive an Abrams in Hit Iraq. We were on a FOB and it was an unusually slow day. I'm EOD and the IED's were scarce that day. I went to the tankers and asked for a tour of the tank. He said "Hell I'll let you take her for a spin"...I said HELL YEAH BRO! Awesome piece of machinery. Anyway, thanks for the info...it is making sense now. The plastic shot out of the HP line into the gear box and no doubt binded up the system. I have talked to "ask the Experts" and some local mechanics...and in 10 minutes on this forum, you have solved the problem for me. You rock bro.
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Well it ain't looking good. I tugged the tube out, but it's only like 6 inches of tube. Hooked everything back up and started the engine. Power steering went from 0% to probably 10% so it is definitely the problem, but there is still tubing in the gear. What a POS design putting plastic tubing inside. Do you think this will require a new gear or can I open this up somehow and clear the blockage?
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I suspect this is going to require a new gear. There's no telling how much tubing is in there or how badly it's chewed up. Along with replacing the gear and line, you'll want to flush the remainder of the system to clear out any possible contamination that could wipe out a new gear or your cooler.
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That's what I was afraid of...if the tubing is suppose to run the entire length of the HP line, then there is all but about 6 inches in the gear. Thanks again.
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One more thing...along with the minute power assist that returned, the pump stopped making noise until I attempt to turn the wheel...I loosened the return line and started the engine and fluid was draining from it as it should...if I loosen the HP line and do the same, I get the same result as I stated earlier...could the pump be bad? Is there a way to check this? Could the cooler be blocked? Is there a way to check this? It is looking like I may have to bite the bullet and take it in...I may be over my head in this one.
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