:rep: and more :rep: and more :rep: three for three! :beerchug:

 

1. Are you really comparing 60 ft times from a drag radial to a street tire?
2. The SRT10 beat you in ET
Only one I'm giving you is the SRT4 since you have no slip for the SRT8

 

Why do always have to take shots at my posts?
I dont crap all over yours, but maybe I should?

Giving me? LOL!Really?
Your "list of kills" are all illegal street races and no proof other than your word.


1. actually I was more interested in comparing my new 1.8xx 60' times with the new TC
compared to my old times that were always 2.1xx and 2.2xx's , right about where the SRT8 Jeep is with AWD launch


I'm one of a VERY few posting actual time slips and photo's of "Legal" track racing kills showing the other guys ride with tech numbers displayed.
and yes, I typically post faster Cars/Trucks that "should" have won on paper....Anyone can beat a slower car, so where's the challenge?

I'll normally only run when I know it's something I can beat or if I want a close race to know if I can

:i_rolleyes:


2. If cars could race them selves, there would be no need to race at all. Everyone could just compare specs on paper by flipping open a R&T mag...Wow that sounds like more fun. :hah:
A win is a win, and NHRA rules of the track are the first one to cross the finish line wins, not the fastest ET, educate yourself because I'm getting tired of schooling you.


SRT8 Jeep Car# 4224 from last year:

My tech #3680 from last year, when I was running just a Bully Dog 91 tune, stock converter

Time Slip,
bottom line reads Right Lane 1st by .1264 (note SRT8's 60' times with AWD traction are still in the 2.xx range, to my new TC's 1.8's)

It's not my fault other drivers come to the track on street tires and I beat them with Drag Radials, Many of them come to the line with more power than I have
If I have less power but I'm more efficient at transferring it to the ground at launch ...its because my Ram was purpose built to do just that!
I also beat a friends Yellow QC SRT10, who was on 390/40R17 M&H DR's
...so you going to say that doesn't count because he was heavier? or because I dont have a pic of the slip? I can get one if you need it

Where are your slips for all your kills?

 

Nice runs
He who finished first wins.
but..
Looks like the SRT 10 didn't go full track and was heavy on the brakes to only trap 85 mph the time you beat him vs the 102 mph on his full run.
Same time, a win is a win. so might as well not let him forget it lol

 

Yup, I posted right under the last time slip

....

SRT10 almost caught me at the traps again but missed his 4th gear shift,
that's why his trap speed was way lower, we ran 4 times with two wins each.
all 3 SRT's had tuners, intake and exhaust mods...stock street tires though

 

Those 390's got way too much tread on em, he needs to loan em to me for awhile

 

BRH, take it easy on Garner, he just got his license last year, he does have a little learning to do. First to the line wins, the other car may have gotten there faster but he also left later than BRH by .153 seconds. BRH still beat him crossing the line by .086 seconds

 

I like garner, he seems to be a good kid. But It sounds like his mum has been taking it easy on him all his life. He may have been the man of the family most of his teenage years so I can't say that I blame him for being spoiled. But if he wants to play with men then he should take his licks like one. You don't learn how to fight by winning, you learn how to fight by loosing so taking it easy on him is out of the question! We all know he's just a kid and we've all been there to some extent. I hate to say this about him because I'm going to get a bashing for it but I know it's for his own good. I can already see some improvement in the last few weeks because of getting put in his place so why ruin a good thing! He's a smart kid, and he knows a lot of stuff for his age. But I think he can live with a black eye or two if he get's out of hand, lol!

 

BRH, take it easy on Garner, he just got his license last year, he does have a little learning to do. First to the line wins, the other car may have gotten there faster but he also left later than BRH by .153 seconds. BRH still beat him crossing the line by .086 seconds

I agree he seems to know a lot for his age...

That said though the first to the trap (without red lighting) wins, period. BRH appears to be a very good drag racer from what he's posted. Don't necessarily have to have the fastest vehicle to be the fastest driver.

Also, nothing wrong with racing on the street, as long as you're being safe....even if it is illegal...You can drive illegally and safe just like you can also drive legally and unsafe...

 

Also, nothing wrong with racing on the street, as long as you're being safe....even if it is illegal...You can drive illegally and safe just like you can also drive legally and unsafe...

Remember to tell your 16 yr old son that when you buy him his first ZR1...betcha don't! :smiledown:

 

Remember to tell your 16 yr old son that when you buy him his first ZR1...betcha don't!

I'd have no issue with it....although I'd never have the money to buy that car haha!

My father had the same attitude with me, let me make my own decisions, and I can deal with the consequences, or gain the benefits. My dad and I even goof off together on the way to the drag strip from time to time...I've done some stupid things in cars, but not too much especially compared to most young drivers. I have no issue with anything on the street, as long as you don't endanger others...if I choose to race or do something wreckless and end up hurting myself, well that's fine I had it coming to me and it was my decision....but I make sure there's no one else around to get hurt (that includes in my vehicle...)

Save street racing for areas where there are no intersections, side streets, entrances, other vehicles, neighborhoods(have seen idiots in my neighborhood racing) etc... and if I get pulled over (and I have) and get a ticket then I'll suck it up and deal with it....but I've been let go when it's happened....had an officer ask me if I thought what I was doing was safe once and I gave him my answer and he said "ok" and let me go...

 

Your father didn't have an attitude, it was out of fear and love for your safety and well being. I assure you...you will feel the same thing your father did when you got your first car. It's easy and understandable why you say this now. Just wait till you hand him the keys...you'll be singing a different tune, lol! edit: Not to mention, your father handed you your keys, garners mom handed him his. I'll leave the rest up to your imagination.

 

Your father didn't have an attitude, it was out of fear and love for your safety and well being. I assure you...

huh? I'm saying my dad had the same attitude with me that I'm telling you I'd have with my kids...he let me make my own decisions...and deal with the consequences, if any, that came with them...I've learned a lot that way and am grateful for this. I would hate to be the one whose parents shelter them, or have a million rules, etc...it only hurts the kid once he's grown up and on his own. Besides, even if you say "don't street race jimmy", do you think it matters? Jimmy will be the one who decides that....it's just better if you teach your kid how to be safe, not how to be "legal". While I was growing up around cars my dad would point out safe and unsafe things to me as we drove, or when he saw someone drift a corner through an intersection or something, and he'd explain why it wasn't safe, and as I got older he didn't have to tell me what to do, he knew that I would simply just be safe...be straight up and tell you kid "hey look, go have fun, but don't do anything stupid, and if you do, you have to deal with it"

It drives me nuts when my wife says "stop speeding it's dangerous" and I say "why" and she says "because it's illegal".....then she'll take corners at the speed limit while it's pouring rain lol...speeding is only dangerous if you are going too fast to have control over your vehicle....usually 5 mph over is not dangerous


EDIT:

I assure you...you will feel the same thing your father did when you got your first car

I agree with this lol

 

If someone's parents REALLY wanted to stop them from racing, they would NOT buy them a fast car lol. Then again you can kill people in a civic....soooo....again, it's all about just simply being safe, whether you have a fast car or not....just don't do something stupid that could hurt you, or worse hurt someone else...

 

I just got back from work and saw this...sry for the missunderstanding about your dads attitude. As you have seen in the past, I'm good at not comprehending the meaning correctly. None the less, it's evident that your dad trusted you like I trusted mine as most parents do. But I still didn't hand them the keys to a fast car much less a 5000 lb race truck at 16. Garner has more races with his truck at 16 than everyone in this thread combined and that's an under statement, lol! No matter how safe you are, if you hit someone from 70 on, someone is going to be dead or permanately mamed. And if you're driving at a high rate of speed, it's your fault no matter the consequences. His chances of this not happening are slim to none because his mother handed him the keys. Has his dad been around to guide him in the right direction as yours did...it doesn't sound like it? Whos mom buys their son a car when there's a dad around that would normally do that? If your reading this garner I don't mean to offend you. I was hoping snrusak would understand without having to bring this out in the open. I'm sure his mom meant well, but she should have bought him a six cylinder. At least it would have cut his races by half unless he likes loosing which I doubt. If a fatality were to ever happen, his mom is completely responsible for everything until he's of age. If anyone on this forum were to buy a 16 yr old a 5000 lb bomb knowing he drives like this is no better than the 16 yr old himself. I'm not trying to be a smarta&&, but the click you had with your father doesn't warrant the responsibilities of garner or any other kid. I don't know how old you were when you felt you had it coming if you hurt yourself. But if your racing you're not by yourself, and if the other kid dies you'll get a vehicle manslauter charge. If garner ever hurts someone, he doesn't have anything coming, his mom does. I don't mean to offend either of you, but garner is out there. Garner...you don't need to race everyone that comes along reving his motor. You can think of it as turning the other cheek and being a better man. You're barking up the wrong tree, the one you want is at the drag strip. You don't have to prove to anyone on here that your truck is fast, we all know it is. And don't give me this crap about being extra safe. If you're racing the pizza dilivery guy, he's in the city where kids live and ride their bikes. My bro has owned one of the largest pizza resuraunts in this state since 1992 and they don't deliver in the middle of nowhere. Pizza drivers are not trying to race you, their trying to hurry with their delivery, lol! I can see it now, not even the pizza guy is safe around garner, lol! ILMAO!

 

Garner has more races with his truck at 16 than everyone in this thread combined and that's an under statement, lol!

lol Obviously you don't know me very well....I might just have more races in a Ram truck than everyone on the forum and a few others combined.

 

thats a pretty impressive kill list dude

 

I'm at a huge factory disadvantage with heavy stock tires/wheels, a crap load of TM, and weak 3.55 gears and an open rear differential.
4WD is also adding extra weight most racers dont have to deal with.

So to overcome those obstacles and make them work for me instead of against me,
I needed to be creative with how I spend my money to run with cars with way more HP and/or lighter weight than my 5300 pound brick.

A complete re-gear for both diffs and a rear locker would have been $3300 (installed) up here.
Instead I achieved about the same results as an R/T, maybe even better, with an even better Torque Converter and Dedicated DR's (4.30:1 effective gear ratio) for under $2k.
That golden combo is enough to beat a stock R/T, that cost $2k more than my 4x4 and is pretty much useless on the roads in the winter here for up to 6 months a year on snow/ice covered roads.

The main difference between an R/T Ram and mine (that may explain some of the animosity) is I made a mid 15 second truck run 13's in 2500'+ DA
The R/T is a already a pre-packaged 13 second truck bone stock that most owners are only getting mid 14's with.

 

I'm at a huge factory disadvantage with heavy stock tires/wheels, a crap load of TM, and weak 3.55 gears and an open rear differential.
4WD is also adding extra weight most racers dont have to deal with.

So to overcome those obstacles and make them work for me instead of against me,
I needed to be creative with how I spend my money to run with cars with way more HP and/or lighter weight than my 5300 pound brick.

A complete re-gear for both diffs and a rear locker would have been $3300 (installed) up here.
Instead I achieved about the same results as an R/T, maybe even better, with an even better Torque Converter and Dedicated DR's (4.30:1 effective gear ratio) for under $2k.
That golden combo is enough to beat a stock R/T, that cost $2k more than my 4x4 and is pretty much useless on the roads in the winter here for up to 6 months a year on snow/ice covered roads.

The main difference between an R/T Ram and mine (that may explain some of the animosity) is I made a mid 15 second truck run 13's in 2500'+ DA
The R/T is a already a pre-packaged 13 second truck bone stock that most owners are only getting mid 14's with.

but you need gears... to more easily turn her into a mid to low 13's or better truck.

$3300 seems too high,you should look for better price.
You could pick up a stock LSD for under a $100 if you search (and that's probably better in the snow and ice than a new $500+ DTT)
Gears themselves maybe $400-$450 new or much cheaper if you just snagged a lightly used set of 3.92's from somebody swapping a 4x4 to 4.56
Then $300 - $500 an axle labor would be more in line including bearings seals, fluids etc.(shop around)
and once again it would be an ET shave that you created by your own actions.

 

Prius! "I was drag racing" "In a prius" "I don't win much"

LOL funny movie...and charlie day was great in it!

The thing I like about BRH is that his truck is not only fast on the track, it is also pretty fast on the street. I don't see the point in track prep for a DD if it ends up slow on the street, at least that's my opinion, because I drive about 1,500 miles a month, and love driving, so I want it to be quick on the street not just on the track. I've known people who spend half a day removing weight(whole interiors, etc...) just for the track to lose a couple tenths at most, then the next day they reassemble the car....I understand simple things like going with less than half a tank of gas, maybe removing spare tire...but beyond simple things it doesn't make sense to me...that's why it's called a DD lol.

 

Nice driving.. I miss my track days... when I had my srt4 I was so excited when I took out my first srt8.

 

Yupp RandTX is probably gonna be the first qc in the 11s

 

Naw Ricky will probably beat me to it.

 

Actually I was referring to in the same air, and real times not corrected. ie heading towards a 12 sec truck in better air.

 

I'll get there eventually ,
...just hope the trans holds out long enough to get me there


LT's are next on my Christmas list

 

Yep the concept of using 2p as a normal WOT up shift gear is troublesome.

But as I understand it can't you put in tow haul, OD off or something and revert it to not using that extra gear at WOT?

 

I stopped using 2pr totally,
just use auto 1-2-3, and it's just hitting 4th gear at the traps.

Tow/Haul mode, ESP off, let is shift on its own.
Currently have my Diablo Trinity setup with 6400 rpm shift points

 

hitting 4th at WOT is as bad as 2p.
but I'm scratching my head as to how you are even hitting 4th WOTat 98 mph with your gears.
Mine at WOT would be at about 6000 rpm in 3rd at 98 mph on 295's and 4.56 gears..
your's should be less than 4700 rpm at 98 in 3rd with 3.55 and those DR's

If you are hitting 6400 shorty before the traps, sounds more like it's shifting from 2p to 3rd shortly before the traps

anyway assuming it's in 3rd and just auto shifting way early, AND it behaves the same as a 3g pull back from D over 5000 rpm and it should hold 3rd to the rev limit which with 295's and 3.55 would be at least 135 mph - way the heck and gone past the 1/4 mile

 

Sorry, That's when I was still using 2nd prime
EVIC reads 2pr as 3rd, and 3rd gear as 4th

my bad

 

Ok, makes sense now.

 

Well because I am me and also have opinions I figured I would throw in my 2 cents (or maybe 5). First of all street racing is dangerous. I'm not going to preach about it because I am guilty of it as well. My dad always told me go as fast as you feel comfortable, and as a result my dad and I have had a few top end confrontations on the Interstate.

As far as track racing goes; reaching the end first is more important than the best ET. As someone stated earlier if it was all about the ET we could look in a magazine and determine who wins. If I trip the trap first and I didn't red light I win; simple as that. There is absolutely no way I am going to tell my competitor that he won just because he had the better ET; I may however tell them that if they would learn to drive better they just might beat me next time. I am not willing to downplay my driving abilities and or skill because I beat a vehicle that is technically faster. Skill is the name of the game.

If I get a kill on the street, hell yes it counts. No I cannot provide timeslips, but I wouldn't be touting my ET either. I would simply be saying I beat brand X vehicle whether they sucked at driving or not. If I said I ran a 10 in my neon then yeah I had better have a timeslip to prove it.

Now I must say that I have not yet had a race with my Ram. Nobody seems to be interested and I'm bone stock except for my cat back exhaust. I can't even get the teens to race. Maybe one day soon I can add a kill to the Ram list.

 

Wow going through these posts is just awesome!! The only thing I have to say is You guys are running awesome trucks ( and not just because I have one he he he) I have done street racing over track when I was younger, and you win some and you lose some but don't take away from anyone the wins they achieve, you may not like it, and may wonder how they did it, it happens thats racing!!