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Also on the sub voice coils are you planing on wiring to .5 or 2 ohm? If .5 I would suggest beefing up your elect system as well. Otherwise look at getting d4 subs and wire down to 1 ohm, but I would still suggest some elect upgrades to keep the amp happy.
I am going to do 2ohms on the D2's. I know I could get more out of them with a ported box, but sealed is going to be more in line with what I am looking for in an upgrade. I want to strike a balance between SPL and SQ. That said, I want 12's for the ease at lower tones, with the option to always turn the levels down. I am going to use a 1/0 gauge kit, and if all sounds good I will pull the trigger on that Sundown 1500 Amp.

I have been in contact with NetAudio and the box has been ordered.
The 2 Sa 12's have been ordered.

I just need to find a wiring kit and the amp.
 

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Ive got everytbing I need except the NetAudio box :(

He says im #12 on the list and 3-4 weeks is the approx waiting time. That was about a week ago and I ordered it July 25th.

I ended up with 2a SA 1210s subs, a 1500watt sundown amp ready for 2ohm, a kicker 0 gauge kit, the Pac 35 loc and a NetAudio box.

If i read the amp guide right, 2 subs @2ohm will actually end up with like 830w a piece. Interesting.

Waiting is killing me.
 

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Ive got everytbing I need except the NetAudio box :(

He says im #12 on the list and 3-4 weeks is the approx waiting time. That was about a week ago and I ordered it July 25th.

I ended up with 2a SA 1210s subs, a 1500watt sundown amp ready for 2ohm, a kicker 0 gauge kit, the Pac 35 loc and a NetAudio box.

If i read the amp guide right, 2 subs @2ohm will actually end up with like 830w a piece. Interesting.

Waiting is killing me.
Good to here.

Yes the sundown saz 1500 amp is rated at 1500rms for 1 ohm.

I here you on the wait for the box. I ordered my box back in June and he still hasn't started the build on it.:4-dontknow:

Cant wait to see it.
 

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Ive got everytbing I need except the NetAudio box :(

He says im #12 on the list and 3-4 weeks is the approx waiting time. That was about a week ago and I ordered it July 25th.

I ended up with 2a SA 1210s subs, a 1500watt sundown amp ready for 2ohm, a kicker 0 gauge kit, the Pac 35 loc and a NetAudio box.

If i read the amp guide right, 2 subs @2ohm will actually end up with like 830w a piece. Interesting.

Waiting is killing me.
Sorry if this has been posted. I read this thread before just didn't reread it. What electrical upgrades are you doing. I was planning on running the same sub/amp combo and was curious if our trucks can handle the power?

I know it's going to be awhile, but would like some input when it's finished. I am on the fence about the netaudio box vs the fox box because of most people saying these subs are better ported. Thanks for the help, hope your box gets to you quicker than expected.
 

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Glad to hear the SA 12's will fit in the NetAudio box. I'll be ordering a single 10" sealed box and will be running a Kicker IX1000.5 amp with the sub. Still trying to decide what door speakers I want. I've got a pair of Kicker 6x9's I bought for my 280Z, but might end up using them on the rear doors for the truck.
 

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Sorry if this has been posted. I read this thread before just didn't reread it. What electrical upgrades are you doing. I was planning on running the same sub/amp combo and was curious if our trucks can handle the power?

I know it's going to be awhile, but would like some input when it's finished. I am on the fence about the netaudio box vs the fox box because of most people saying these subs are better ported. Thanks for the help, hope your box gets to you quicker than expected.
I have seen a lot of builds go one way or the other with electrical upgrades. I know there are some guys on here who run more power than what I am going to do and they haven't upgraded the internals; however, I have seen a couple of guys who want to absolutely be sure, and they upgrade the electrical.

I am opting not to upgrade the electricals as of right now. I don't plan on kicking the crap out of the subs... at first, anyways, but from what I have seen and heard, I think I will be fine. Power issues was part of the reason why I chose 2 ohm load instead of 1, or the craaaaazy .5

I opted for NetAudio because Paul took the time to ask me what Subs I was using and what my goals were. He can make you a cookie cutter box with 1 cubic foot of breathing space etc. I was concerned about the whole "these subs sound better ported" issue, but I know what kind of bass I like and I like sealed. Paul and I worked out a configuration that he thinks will work with the 2 SA 12s sealed.

I haven't seen much bad stuff about the Fox Box other than tongue in cheek compliments like "Its not bad for a pre fab," but what it comes down to is what you want. I personally think both boxes look pretty good, and if you sound proof the Fox Box a little bit, add the spacers for the 12" subs, then it probably sounds and performs well. That said, I bet the same is true for the Net Audio. The selling point for me was that Paul was making this box specifically for me, for what I said I wanted. I didn't know about this crazy wait time though.

Sounds like I won't have anything installed till damn near Halloween...
 

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IBEW,
Once you get your box from Paul, take a look at someone's Fox box and you will better understand the awesome decision you made:) Really is no comparison. Paul makes an awesome product, and stands behind making sure your happy.

If you go to Sundowns website and check their online dealers you will find the best deal on the amp, and it will be covered under warranty.
 

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I have seen a lot of builds go one way or the other with electrical upgrades. I know there are some guys on here who run more power than what I am going to do and they haven't upgraded the internals; however, I have seen a couple of guys who want to absolutely be sure, and they upgrade the electrical.

I am opting not to upgrade the electricals as of right now. I don't plan on kicking the crap out of the subs... at first, anyways, but from what I have seen and heard, I think I will be fine. Power issues was part of the reason why I chose 2 ohm load instead of 1, or the craaaaazy .5

I opted for NetAudio because Paul took the time to ask me what Subs I was using and what my goals were. He can make you a cookie cutter box with 1 cubic foot of breathing space etc. I was concerned about the whole "these subs sound better ported" issue, but I know what kind of bass I like and I like sealed. Paul and I worked out a configuration that he thinks will work with the 2 SA 12s sealed.

I haven't seen much bad stuff about the Fox Box other than tongue in cheek compliments like "Its not bad for a pre fab," but what it comes down to is what you want. I personally think both boxes look pretty good, and if you sound proof the Fox Box a little bit, add the spacers for the 12" subs, then it probably sounds and performs well. That said, I bet the same is true for the Net Audio. The selling point for me was that Paul was making this box specifically for me, for what I said I wanted. I didn't know about this crazy wait time though.

Sounds like I won't have anything installed till damn near Halloween...
Thanks for your input, much appreciated. I think I will go with netaudio as well. I've always had ported boxes pushing a lot of power, but I'm going to change things up a little bit. I wont be doing mine till around January so I look forward to seeing your review when everything is installed.

Also, I was thinking about the sa1500 amp like you purchased, do you think the 800 some watts you said each sub would be getting is to much? I know when sealed, subs can handle more and I've heard these are underrated, but I'm just looking for some more input.
 

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Because he is only running the subs at 2 ohm he will only be getting 800 rms total for both of the subs. THe 1500 is if you are to run the subs a 1 ohm
Dude, you put me in to full on def con 5 here. How the hell did I miss that detail? I set up the exchange for D4s so I can run them the way I want now. The NetAudio box probably wont be here for a little while longer so at least this snafu didnt hold up the operation, but when I saw your post, I was like noooooooooooooo he's right!!!

I know this box will be worth it, luckily I swapped out my exhaust this weekend for a Borla XR 1 and it has been music to my ears.

So yes, I will be running 2 SA 12 D4's to 1 Ohm on my SA1500
 

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You better be looking at some electrical upgrades if you think your going to push over 1500wrms in your truck.
 

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all i did was put my massive Nano3 amp (1400watts rms) under my driver seat and put a pro box rocks single 10 ported box loaded with their sub under my back seat. sounds good, Not as loud as my Memphis Mojo 15 that was in a custom center console back seat. but it will do fo rnow lol
 

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Totally Spaced

I am so sorry guys, I was out of commission in the hospital for awhile and I have been back on the forum recently and I spaced that I had this thread open. Its cold as balls here in Chicago right now, but I will take some pics of the final product as soon as I can so you can see how it all looks. I will snap a vid of it too so you can see them working, but you know how bass comes across in video, still, its soooo good.

The install went smooth considering it was my first custom underseat build. I still find it odd that we had to mod the seats so that you can fold down the rear, but you guys were all helpful. I added the spacers just to ensure myself the 12s would clear, and I mounted the AMP to a thin piece of plywood behind the rear sliding window behind the seats, my truck didnt have anything else to bolt to really. Other than that, I did run a bass knob up to the dash and mounted it just below the stereo. I made the mistake on my Jeep when I mounted the knob by my headlight knobs and the LED light blinded me constantly. This time, the light faces up and since I am switching out my interiors soon for LEDs, the whole thing oughta match!

In terms of sound, I am so happy I went the route I did. The subs carry plenty of power, feels like they dont even try. With the short spacers in the back, my passengers never complain about their ass vibrating too much. The Sundowns were a perfect balance between volume and quality. I am also happy I went with a sealed box by NetAudio. No disrespect to FoxBox, but the craftmanship from NetAudio is ridiculous. The box is a work of art, built specifically as a product from my many conversations with Paul discussing what I want out of my Subs. I can crank these things up and listen to something with a busy bottom line and it keeps up and doesnt feel like a weird lazy echo, and on the opposite side of the coin, it stays crisp and knows its place when something more refined is on. The last piece of the puzzle is that there is virtually no rattling in or around the truck- people dont complain about the noise, but I have set off an alarm or two when playing around with the systems limitations. I at no point clip out and have to worry about drawing too much power. Autokraft was amazingly helpful for the install when he assured me no power upgrades would be needed.
 

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Pumped to see them in action! Are you getting much excursion? I REALLY wanted to go the dual SD-8's route but my local audio dealer was convinced the Sundowns MUST be in ported boxes...

Anyway, I ended up going with a single Diamond Audio TX10. Hopefully it'll thump enough to my satisfaction. Install should be done Saturday.

http://www.diamondaudio.com/products/subwoofers/tx-subwoofers/1000-2/
 

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Pumped to see them in action! Are you getting much excursion? I REALLY wanted to go the dual SD-8's route but my local audio dealer was convinced the Sundowns MUST be in ported boxes...

Anyway, I ended up going with a single Diamond Audio TX10. Hopefully it'll thump enough to my satisfaction. Install should be done Saturday.

http://www.diamondaudio.com/products/subwoofers/tx-subwoofers/1000-2/
I knew when I was figuring out the system what kind of sound I was looking for, so I have a good amount of power to a sealed system producing tight but really full notes. Excursion has not been a problem, but I am not pushing anything to the limit. I am sure this setup could move some serious air, but for now, I am more than satisfied.
 
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