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So I have a 98 Laramine with the extended cab and bed. When I first received the car, I replaced the front and rear shocks with heavy duty Gabriel shocks (61600 in the rears).

The front doesn't really seem to have an issue responding to bumps or cracks. But I feel like when the rear tires go over anything, it seems like I get into a perfect harmonic and it just keeps bouncing for much longer than I feel like it should. Does this mean I need new leaf springs? Hoping not, as those cost upwards of like $300.

Any ideas? Things to tighten down? Parts to replace?
 

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Has this been happening since you bought it or is it a recent development?

At 22 years the leafs are old but wouldn't be the first thing I'd go after for a bouncing issue.

Most likely worn shocks or wheels out of balance as Moparite mentioned.
 

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Shocks are good, I actually took them off at one point to check that.

Wheels may or may not be out of balance. I did get the tires replaced last year (thinking it was an issue with the tires), but the problem persisted (they also never said anything about the wheels needing to be balanced).

One thing I have noticed is that the wheel never really sits...correctly on the lugs. I have some videos I can share, but when mounting it to the hub it has a lot of play (up down left right). We had to hold it in the perfect position to get it to sit correctly.
 

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Something is wrong there.

There should be very little play regardless of hub- or lug-centric wheels and you should not have to hold it in place to tighten the lug nuts.

No matter how tight the lug nuts are that wheel is going to move on the studs becoming off-center. That could easily be your problem.

Are all the wheels like that? If not is it the wheel or the mount that's the issue?
 

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I'd raise the rear end, make sure it's supported well, block the front wheels and start it up and put it in gear. Observe any "runout" on the wheels. That will rule out them as an issue. Short story... I grabbed some used wheels my Dad had and had them put on my vehicle. It started bouncing like crazy after about 50 miles. I took it to a shop and they put it on a lift and put it in gear. The rear wheels were jumping up and down like crazy! Turned out the guy that mounted them left a tube inside the tire and it slipped to one side! It was just laying in there and he didn't see it.
 

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Shocks are good, I actually took them off at one point to check that.

Wheels may or may not be out of balance. I did get the tires replaced last year (thinking it was an issue with the tires), but the problem persisted (they also never said anything about the wheels needing to be balanced).

One thing I have noticed is that the wheel never really sits...correctly on the lugs. I have some videos I can share, but when mounting it to the hub it has a lot of play (up down left right). We had to hold it in the perfect position to get it to sit correctly.
The wheels should fit perfect and shouldn't have to be moved around as that means it can slip and eventually break your studs .
 

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Alright everyone, buckle those seatbelts. This is gonna be a pretty detailed post.

To give a little background, what I'm feeling is almost like the bed is bouncing or "fluttering" on something like that. The bed feels like it has a lot of up and down, and maybe trapezoidal movement (forward and backward, like a rhombus).

I've been still struggling with this for the longest freaking time (since I've had the truck).

I started going through and thinking what might be the problem. I started off with since maybe the tires were so old (like 12+ years) they probably needed to go. I had 3 different tires on the truck, so I got 4 new tires and that did not solve the issue. Even after a rebalancing.

Prior to this, I replaced the shocks. I used Gabriel for the front and rear, specifically these for the front (Gabriel 61634) and these for the rear (Gabriel 61600). I'm not sure if these are good or bad, but they're what I have installed.

After dealing with the problem for a while (after new shocks and new tires), I shifted to changing the bushings for the leaf springs and replacing the rear hangers and leaf spring shackle. I thought maybe because the bushings were completely seized, the springs weren't compressing properly and then was causing the axle to shift or wrap. That doesn't appear to be the case.

Problem is still occurring after this.

So I have three main videos (and then a few others if anyone wants to see). These videos were taken AFTER I replaced the leaf spring components (as well as new tires and shocks).

Here is a video of the rear suspension looking forward. I've cut out some of the extra video and only focused on a section where the vibration is the worst. I think you can see it bouncing up and down and shifting left and right a bit.


This next video is taken with the camera mounted to the cab pointed at the box. I added some red reference lines so you can see how much the bed is bouncing around.


This last video is what various parts of the body look like with the tires spinning off the ground. I was doing this to find out if the tires were horribly balanced and causing vibration. I can feel a little bit of vibration in the cab and bed, but it's minimal. You can also see a little deflection in the drive shaft, but again not that much.


I checked the runout at some point on the axles and I remember it being very minimal. I can go check this again but tit was within spec I think.

So now I'm sitting here pulling my hair out trying to figure out what this could be. Is it something with the cab? Something with the bed? My friend is suggesting to take a look at the body mounts, but it looks like the bed doesn't have any bushing mounts? Does it just attach directly to the frame then? Looking online and in the manual, it looks like there are only bushing mounts for the cab.

Someone please help me and save my sanity.
 

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In the firts video i hear what sounds like brake rub. And i see no mention of checking the rear brakes so i would look at them. Bent/warped drum/rotor ??? Lift the rear off the ground in neutral then turn the wheels manualy and see if you feel any resistance.
 

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In the firts video i hear what sounds like brake rub. And i see no mention of checking the rear brakes so i would look at them. Bent/warped drum/rotor ??? Lift the rear off the ground in neutral then turn the wheels manualy and see if you feel any resistance.
Unfortunately not the drums. The sound you are hearing is the differential which makes a terrible wine at ~40-45mph.
 
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