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Last Thursday afternoon I had taken my daughter to the doctor. Upon leaving my truck wouldn't start. All systems would energize with the key in the on position, but it wouldn't start when the key was turned or "tipped" to the start position.

I farted around with it for a few minutes and eventually it started as normal, but within a minute or so of running the check engine light came on. I immediately drove it over to the dealership. I told them what the problem was and left the truck there. I called the next day (Friday) and they told me they had to replace the TIPM module (I think that's what they called it), except they couldn't get the part until Monday. They got me into a rental truck (2012 quad cab), so it wasn't a big deal.

Monday morning came around and they called me about 9:00am saying the truck was fixed and ready to go. Since I was working local, I pretty much went straight over. They handed me the keys and I walked out to the truck. The first thing I did was hit the remote start - nothing except for a single horn chirp. Tried again - same again. I walked back into the dealership and told them the problem.

The service advisor suggested I maxed out the remote start feature and told me to just insert the key fob in the ignition and start the truck that way to clear the system. I did that, but again the tip start wouldn't work, although this time the engine/starter would bump as I tipped the fob to the start position. The truck would start if I held the fob to the start position long enough. After that, I tried the remote start feature again - it still didn't work. Brought the key/fob back in....

The dealership called me at 5:00pm today (Tuesday) and told me the truck wasn't ready yet.

I know the key/fob is not unique to the ram trucks, but has anyone else had this sort of problem?


What makes you call it a Tip Start???? Mercedes's old Technolgy that made the starter monitor the starting. You put key in and turn to start and let go fast, it will continue to crank til it reaches the right rpm or stop after 10..15's a self starting system...

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Because tip start is the name Chrysler has given to this feature.

Not sure Chrysler started that...Those iDataLink guys have been using the wrong names for Chrysler Vehicles and they think they are Wrangler Automatics have Tip-Start, Tip the key to start position fast and it will crank itself up to 10/15 secs....
Those Idiots at iDatalink have devices listed that work on Wrangler etc as non-tip and they think there is just 2 wrangler manuals have this posted/listed and they refuse to

Ram has these types:
Key Fob with Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) — If
Your vehicle may use a keyless ignition system. This
system consists of a Key Fob with Remote Keyless Entry
(RKE) transmitter and a Wireless Ignition Node (WIN)
with integral ignition switch. You can insert the Key Fob
into the ignition switch with either side up.
Standard Blade Ignition Key — If Equipped​
Your vehicle may use a standard blade key ignition
system. The authorized dealer that sold you your vehicle
has the key code numbers for your vehicle locks.
Wireless Ignition Node (WIN) — If Equipped​
The Wireless Ignition Node (WIN) operates similar to an
ignition switch. It has four operating positions, three with
detents and one that is spring-loaded. The detent positions
are OFF, ACC, and ON/RUN.

Mercedes was the inventor of Tip: Part 13 Tip start & DAS (WJB ) 04-01-01.pdf

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Tip Start Feature – Automatic Transmission Only​
Turn the ignition switch to the START position and
release it as soon as the starter engages. The starter motor
will continue to run, but will automatically disengage
itself when the engine is running. If the engine fails to
start, the starter will disengage automatically in 10 seconds.
If this occurs, turn the ignition switch to the LOCK
position, wait 10 to 15 seconds, then repeat the “Normal​
Starting” procedure.

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Hey, I never claimed they started it, just that they adopted it. Since Jeep used to be a part of Daimler-Chrysler, it makes sense that they would do this.
Nah I didn't mean for it to sound like that...sorry...I was just saying how it is getting used by that name because of the iDatalink DumbA** is the modules used to bypass and to work with Can Bus on Alarms, Remore start etc...

sorta like the word French doors are used wrong...a French door Fridge?? then it should have a glass sections in the french door is one door with the design being 9 or 15 lites, glass panes seperated by wood...two of those would be called a set of french doors....most thing double doors any kind are called french doors, not

When Benz owned most of Chrysler/dodge/jeep, they put alot of good tech on the the new Rams and a few other models are already on the new can bus/network system so chrysler can fade out the mercedes network and their Transmissions, with all going to the 8 and 9 speeds...
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