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Ok...

Bought an 2009 with issues (maybe with my head). I've got a truck with 170k on it that has the cam/lifter failure. Facing immediate choices and need expertise. Having truck towed Wed and of course there are local deals that will disappear as we speak...

Options:

1. Perhaps the best one... Complete 2013 Swap with only 36k miles 1700 bucks but turnkey... kind of. It does have the 65rfe trans which would be nice for peace of mind, full harness and PCM (Trans P52119976AE) and all accessories. However, it is a 4wd and mine is a 2wd. Need help with considerations. Yes I've done a lot of reading already and still not clear. I understand PCM's are not compatible with each other but can the full harness swap in with PCM?
- Can/should get the 4wd pcm reflashed to my vin and 2wd (I have the 545rfe in my 2wd this is 645rfe)?
- Can I just swap the tailhousing for the transfer case and go?
- Possible to use factory dual exhaust from 4wd on 2wd?
- This is full harness, accessories and PCM, do I have to worry about security lockout? Flash required?
- Should I try to grab the 13 evics cluster. I know it usually doesn't swap but maybe will pcm and full harness it would now match the new engine?
- What else should I consider or look out for compatibility wise?
- Only about 650 to install unless there are issues!

2. Nixed high mileage swap

3. Steal on rebuilt long block (no warranty but brand new reman crated) 1500.00 will bolt right in but to all old well used parts. 950 for my shop to install

4. Scrapping DIY rebuild for time/space

5. Have shop rebuild. Labor would go a fair bit high vs other options. Biggest concern is having all the other old parts, sensors, etc.

Anything else I should consider with option 1 like pulling other parts? I am trying to go for reliability and hopefully low cost due to upcoming first baby in 3 months :Wow1:

Thanks all!
 

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Let me rephrase this.. Can I use the 2013 long block without too much grief? This one still has the rfe trans and also the reason I'm leaning this way instead of a reman long block. (low mileage trans swap)

I've noted the alternators are different and of course electric power steering can't be used with old pcm so mine has to be swapped. I'm not trying to use the new harness and PCM unless someone says otherwise. Will be using my old one. Concern is around using all the sensors, intake, coils etc. As much as possible considering all the parts are also low mileage. If too much needs to be done, bill will go up quick. I am considering pre-swapping some of the components before it goes to the shop since I planned to pull the heads, drop in new lifters (cheap insurance). The guy with the swap is giving me everything so I'll probably just sell the unused 13 parts. I'll have the full harness, even the fuel tank/pump, etc. so anything that can swap will.
 

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The 2013 harness and PCM will not work in a 2009 truck. So much will need to be modified and added that it would be easier to buy a new truck. The 65rfe is pretty much the same as yours but the valve body and sensors would need to be swapped and your 2009 PCM will not know what's going on. The 2013 engine sounds like your best option. You will need to use your 2009 sensors as the 2013 uses different connectors. You will also need to use the 2009 front timing cover so that your power steering pump has a place to mount. Just the engine swap is a no brainer and will get you back on the road in no time.
 
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