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Did my first hand waxing today and it left me less than satisfied with my truck's paintjob. None of the railroad dust or other defects I've read about in here, but I did notice a lot of what appear to be water spots all over the truck. Unfortunately, no amount of wax on, wax off will remove them. They appear to be burned into the clear coat. Since I have some experience with painting vehicles I know what to look for as far as issues with application. These look more like the truck was exposed to something like contaminated water or well water, which is prevalent here in Florida for irrigation or watering of lawns on rural or commercial properties. I'm guessing that the dealership uses well water for their greenery and that it gets on the cars. This water has a high mineral content (over time it will leave rust spots on walls and sidewalks) and if left to dry on the vehicle in the hot Florida sun I could see it doing this.
I doubt my dealer will do anything about it and Dodge probably won't take any responsibility either. They might come out with a serious compounding and buffing, but I no longer have the tools or physical ability to do this as I'm disabled. Took all I had just to wax the thing today and I'm hurting from it. What are my options? Can I file a consumer complaint if I can't get the dealer to do anything? It didn't happen at my home as we use city water for our sprinklers and they don't hit the truck where I park it anyway. It's so disappointing because now that I know they are there I can't help but see them when I look at the truck.:i_rolleyes:
 

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Try a clay bar on a couple of those mineral spots and see if it helps. We have hard water too here in north florida that will leave mineral spots if allowed to dry on an unwaxed painted surface. When you wax over them you sometimes seal in the calcium deposits. The clay bar should take em off. Last resort for stubborn mineral spots is vinegar, it dissolves the calcium. I've never heard of hard water actually eating into the paint finish. My dealer details with "spotless" demineralized water to avoid this sort of problem. A professional detailer should be able to deal with the situation and fix it for you provided it really isn't a serious paint defect.
 

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Years ago I bought my wife a new '95 Mustang and the first day she had it she parked it at her office and they sprayed the lawn that day. They used well water for the irrigation and it was a hot sunny day.

Five years later you could still see the water spots on the glass, they were etched forever. After wet sanding the paint as much as we dared and buffed it about 50% of the spotting was gone but it was always there. Both my wife and I were sick about it, but after that she realized why nobody parked there.

I feel your pain, all you can do is take it to the dealer and ask, I'm sure if it happened there you wont be the first to complain. If its a decent dealer they will at least give it a shot and try to buff it out, if you can find some other cars on their lot with the same marks then you have some leverage. It may also have been a dealer trade if it came off the lot (unless you ordered it) so who knows what happened along the way.
 

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How long have you had the truck?

If its more than a few days I think you are hosed (no pun intended).

It could just be mineral deposits but it could also be acid rain.....

Bought a brand new Chebby car back in 98.....when we took delivery of it we saw spots like you talk about all over the horizontal surfaces. Two buffings by the dealer and no change. They said they would repaint, I said hellz no, its a brand new car.....I want a brand new car paintjob, not a respray in garage. They laughed. I pursued, and won. Got a new car sans acid rain damage.

Anyways, that doesnt help you much I guess...but maybe it will help someone else who hasnt bought theirs yet.....I know when I got my Ram recently one of the first things I inspected for was acid rain damage.
 

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I have had my Molten Red Pearl truck since Nov. I spent 2 days in Dec polishing and waxing. Dealer had left lots of swirl marks and rail dust. Clyabar, using a PC - 2 stages of polish to remove swirls and spots then 2 stages of wax.I use the Prima brand products that I found on the Mini-Cooper forum but any Pro type products should work. I am also in FL ( Miami) and get deposits from Sprinklers. Prima makes a post wash spray that I love called Hydo. Spay on when still wet and dry using Micro fiber towels

I am VERY OC when it comes to my vehicles they are NEVER machine washed. Remember anything that touches you truck can damage the paint so a good layer of wax is essential


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And here's mine. The problem is when you look really close you can see the spots. There are some on the roof that are really bad.
 

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Sorry to here about that issue of well water and spots on your new truck, I would be so pissed. I have always used Zaino Brothers polish on my cars and trucks, love this stuff, real amazing products.

The first thing I did when I got my truck was 2 coats of Zaino brothers polymer polish.

you can find there products here and what they do.

http://www.zainostore.com/,

I usually put 6 coats every 6 months, but since it was still winter here, I could only put 2. Will be doing a full clay and zaino next week when it warms up a bit.

you might want to look at this product, on my old grand cherokee I has some spots like you explain, not sure its the same thing, I had tried all sort of paint cleaners and clay bars, never got rid of them, but I used this product on it and it got I would say 85% gone, you can barely see them. Might be worth of shot, many of there products work really well for dark colored paints.

Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2...ode=Z-PC&Category_Code=Zaino&Product_Count=20

Hope this can help
 

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You said it --

"Unfortunately, no amount of wax on, wax off will remove them. They appear to be burned into the clear coat... "

If that's the case - if it has in fact burned into the clearcoat - then don't waste your money on ANY kind of detailing product.

I've been detailing on/off for almost 20 years and know a thing or two.

We both know unless you get out the something in the calibre of the Flex XC 3401 VRG Polisher, some quality [high-end] detailing/correction products and some serious time and effort, no type of OTC product applied by hand [no matter how many times] is going to fix your issue.... period!

Do yourself a favor: Contact Dylan von Kleist at Adam's Premium Car Care at the contact methods below. He is one of the most astute individuals you'll meet when it comes to automotive detailing and paint finishes..... and a ell' of a nice guy.

Tell him Grubrunner sent you.

[email protected]

or

Phone: (866) 965-0400
 

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Sorry to here about that issue of well water and spots on your new truck, I would be so pissed. I have always used Zaino Brothers polish on my cars and trucks, love this stuff, real amazing products.

The first thing I did when I got my truck was 2 coats of Zaino brothers polymer polish.

you can find there products here and what they do.

http://www.zainostore.com/,

I usually put 6 coats every 6 months, but since it was still winter here, I could only put 2. Will be doing a full clay and zaino next week when it warms up a bit.

you might want to look at this product, on my old grand cherokee I has some spots like you explain, not sure its the same thing, I had tried all sort of paint cleaners and clay bars, never got rid of them, but I used this product on it and it got I would say 85% gone, you can barely see them. Might be worth of shot, many of there products work really well for dark colored paints.

Z-PC Fusion Dual Action Paint Cleaner Swirl Remover

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2...ode=Z-PC&Category_Code=Zaino&Product_Count=20

Hope this can help

Do you have a part number for this polsh? Thanks in advance.
 

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mine too....

I have commented on this problem in other posts. I have pits and holes in the clear coat along hood. What appears to be no clear coat over quarter size section along bumper. My biggest complaint was a 6"x 12" section in truck bed directly behind rear passenger window that looks like black overspray under clearcoat. Took to dealership the other day. They took pictures and sent to corp. They will fix paint issue, but need truck for 4 days. I don't really like the idea of my brand new truck heading to the body shop for paint. It has currently 3,000 miles on it. I'm going to maybe try to barter for a spray in bed liner and just cover up the mess. Wish me luck:)
 
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