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Spare Tire Black Rim

4.7K views 31 replies 14 participants last post by  Explorer Rob  
#1 ·
Was under the truck and noticed that my spare has the black rims. Is this normal? I thought they cost more. Maybe that was all they had laying around as they put the truck together? If I ever have to use it, no one will confuse which wheel had the flat.
 
#3 ·
Its not just a black steelie?
 
#4 ·
Mine has a black steelie. It had a donut on it. I said "well...wtf...that shit ain't gonna work with some of the shit I get myself into. If I get a flat 38 miles off the highway out on a deer trail...I am ****ed if I only have a donut under the truck. I mean who puts a donut spare under a $60,000 pickup?"

So off I went to my local tire guy where I got an ACTUAL tire put on that rim. Incidentally, the rim is useable with a real tire, unlike most donut spares.
 
#11 ·
GTyankee, yup cost savings. Most models get a temporary use spare. My Longhorn came with the exact same 275 60R20 Goodyear Wrangler SRA that came at the other 4 corners. I imagine the Limited does also. The only thing it did not come with was a TPMS even though the owner's manual says that some spare tires may be equipped with one and it would take a short drive for the system to recognize the spare. The only time I had my spare on was for a 100 mile drive home from the mountains and when I got home it still didn't read the pressure in the spare. I used that to base my conclusion that the spare didn't have one. I find it irresponsible for a manufacturer of a 4x4 vehicle that might see off road duty to include a temporary use spare, even worse when it is a smaller diameter than the rest of the tires are. Ford did the same thing on my Explorer. It came with 255 70R16 Wilderness AT tires but came with a 225 70R15 temporary spare. One of the requirements for a 4x4 club I ran with was that the spare tire must be a full size tire, not a temporary one.
 
#14 ·
Temp spare?

"If a Temporary/Compact Spare tire is used in a driven-wheel position, any differences in tire revolutions per mile require the vehicle's driveline to compensate continuously, increasing heat, wear and the possibility of failure. This is especially true for four-wheel and all-wheel drive vehicles, as well as any vehicle equipped with a limited-slip differential."

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=237
 
#15 ·
Yeah if a rear tire ever goes then I'll put the spare on the front and the good one from the front on the back so my LSD doesn't go out prematurely
 
#16 ·
Same here, my Explorer's Owner's manual said to do the same thing in the event of a flat, mount the spare on the front only. It had as much to do with the Borg-Warner Control Trac transfer case as it did with having limited slip. I've never bothered to see if Ram makes the same demands since mine came with a full size spare.
 
#17 ·
I don't remember it being in the manual, but I do know the 44-44 transfer case was developed as a joint venture with Ford, Dodge, and Borg-Warner. Not sure if that was the same t case though
 
#20 ·
Now you have me curious. I know my rim is black, gonna have to crawl underneath and see if it says "temporary" on it.
 
#22 ·
Mine is temporary
 
#25 ·
I think I read that 34 or 34.5 is about the max diameter that will fit
 
#27 ·
That's the Panhard bar, which is actually more important
 
#31 ·
Finally got around to looking at mine. It is black rim but it is a full size spare and doesn't say "temporary" on it. Matches my standard GY wrangler silent armor tires.:smileup: