[KpOC353]

Has anyone who did the h11 --> h9 swap run into any heat issues in the housing? Looks like some guys on here have had this done for a while so just double checking before. I make the purchase. Think I'm going to grab the smoked quad lamps and do the bulbs at the same time.

 

[mbood82]

http://www.ramforumz.com/showpost.php?p=1756269&postcount=12

I have been running mine for six months with the upgraded low beams. No issues yet.

 

[GR8WING]

OK, now I'm confused... Please forgive me. I have read the thread but apparently the brain isn't working.
I have the '14 Laramie with projectors. I have done an LED upgrade to the low beams and fogs, and I like the color just not impressed with the output. I now have a led low beam that is out after about one year. So I'm looking to see what is best before replacing the failed light. I like the led color of white but again, not impressed with the output or the cost. I'm being steered to HID by folks but not convinced...
What is the best headlight upgrades for my application? Both high and low beams. Happy with the white led fogs.
Thanks in advance for your patience.

 

[kelaog]

OK, now I'm confused... Please forgive me. I have read the thread but apparently the brain isn't working.
I have the '14 Laramie with projectors. I have done an LED upgrade to the low beams and fogs, and I like the color just not impressed with the output. I now have a led low beam that is out after about one year. So I'm looking to see what is best before replacing the failed light. I like the led color of white but again, not impressed with the output or the cost. I'm being steered to HID by folks but not convinced...
What is the best headlight upgrades for my application? Both high and low beams. Happy with the white led fogs.
Thanks in advance for your patience.

LED drop ins are garbage. That's just cheap chinese garbage that has been successfully marketed and people have fallen for it because LED is all the buzword lately. The reason you can't see very well is because the "bulb" is no bulb at all and doesn't shine light in the same places a real bulb did that your lighting unit was designed around. Kind of like someone standing up in front of the projector at a movie theatre..

Real ground up LED lighting can be very very good. IMO, it is not at the level HID is, yet... And PNP kits will never get there because the "bulb" is physically impossible to retrofit using an LED glued onto a stick. Real LED lighting does not resemble in any shape or form what you've purchased and put into your lights.

To answer your question. The best setup for you is
35W HID in 9012 rebase at 4300-4500K
9011 phillips (follow the directions on page one to make it fit).

I ran this setup for a year up north and it was godlike.

 

[monteholic]

I just came in from driving after putting the 9011's in my '16 projectors

9011 in the drivers side and the 9005 in the passengers side...I will be putting the 9005's back in :smiledown:

the 9005 had a fuller beam and longer reach in my comparison, on the high beam comparison, I seen no difference :wow:

they are the Phillips 9011, bought 4 of them so I'm hoping I can return the 2 I didn't modify to recoup 1/2 of my money :doh:

 

[kelaog]

I just came in from driving after putting the 9011's in my '16 projectors

9011 in the drivers side and the 9005 in the passengers side...I will be putting the 9005's back in :smiledown:

the 9005 had a fuller beam and longer reach in my comparison, on the high beam comparison, I seen no difference :wow:

they are the Phillips 9011, bought 4 of them so I'm hoping I can return the 2 I didn't modify to recoup 1/2 of my money :doh:

You should have noticed a mind blowing difference with the high beam (not the bihalogen function the actual highbeam). If you didn't it's because the bulbs you received might have been counterfeit. Where did you obtain them? Seems strange but they are out there. Note in the 2016 the 9005's that are in the low beam are actually rebased 9012's so there wouldn't be much difference between the 9011 to 9005 in the lowbeam. The optics might be a little off as well but I haven't confirmed that.

 

[monteholic]

I'm just going to return the 2 I didn't modify, I don't want to do all that's entailed into installing HID's and I don't think LED's are worth it

 

[monteholic]

the lows are a 9005SL 60watt

here are the 9011's are purchased

 

[kelaog]

the lows are a 9005SL 60watt

here are the 9011's are purchased

Can't comment on the photo because the only way I'd recognize a counterfeit item is by its performance or with some high precision measurement instruments.

The low's are what I expected. They have the same specs as the HIR2 (9012). Phillips is trying to phase out the 9011/9012 so they are producing a supercharged 9005 (SL). Caution, do not replace them with a regular 9005 unless you want your low beams to suck.

 

[monteholic]

What about the 9005SL for the high beams?

 

[raminator157]

Ok, since I never got a response to a thread I started. I have a big horn with the quads. Am I better off doing the H9 conversation than getting Silver Stars? I am looking for the brightest bulb replacement without getting hids.

 

[2010ramlaremie]

Yes. The best bulb you can get is the h9 philips for the low beams,and 9011 for the high beams. Stay away from the silverstars.

 

[GR8WING]

LED drop ins are garbage. That's just cheap chinese garbage that has been successfully marketed and people have fallen for it because LED is all the buzword lately. The reason you can't see very well is because the "bulb" is no bulb at all and doesn't shine light in the same places a real bulb did that your lighting unit was designed around. Kind of like someone standing up in front of the projector at a movie theatre..

Real ground up LED lighting can be very very good. IMO, it is not at the level HID is, yet... And PNP kits will never get there because the "bulb" is physically impossible to retrofit using an LED glued onto a stick. Real LED lighting does not resemble in any shape or form what you've purchased and put into your lights.

To answer your question. The best setup for you is
35W HID in 9012 rebase at 4300-4500K
9011 phillips (follow the directions on page one to make it fit).

I ran this setup for a year up north and it was godlike.

I'm not sure I want to go the HID route. What would be the best bulb replacements, both high and low, in the projector setup.
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

 

[kelaog]

I'm not sure I want to go the HID route. What would be the best bulb replacements, both high and low, in the projector setup.
Thanks again for your help, much appreciated.

Not much you can do with the low beam because only phillips, and osram make 9012's from what I've seen and those are the best bulbs you can buy. They vary a little but not much. OSRAM makes good bulbs but for the price difference I'm not sure you'd notice a difference. Fresh bulbs will be brighter than old ones so if yours are OEM from 2013 chances are they aren't as bright as they once were.

9011's for the highbeam (you'll need to trim a tab). You'll notice a difference there.

 

[kelaog]

Ok, since I never got a response to a thread I started. I have a big horn with the quads. Am I better off doing the H9 conversation than getting Silver Stars? I am looking for the brightest bulb replacement without getting hids.

Read page 1 of this thread and you'll find your answer.

 

[Potatonuts]

Appreciate the info kelaog. I've a 16 w quads and I'll be doing the H9/9011 swap.

 

[tommyg29]

I just picked up a pair of aftermarket lights like the ones on my sons 2009 Ram, and he will be installing my brand new 2016 "quad " lights in his truck. I bought a pair of 9008-H13 bulbs and removed the adapter splitter to use the single hi/lo bulb on each side.
The aftermarket fixtures did not come well aligned, and it was a PITA to adjust them since the whole fixture needs to be removed to do so. Had to remove and reinstall each about 3-4 times to get them close.
I prefer the look of the blacked out older lights.

 

[gofishn]

FYI,
I did the bulb upgrade mentioned, by Kelaog, on page #1.
GOt it form another thread, on a different forum, but same exact mod.

Ford owners, and many other brand owners have been doing this mod for years now.

My own truck is a 2014, have had the H9/H11 bulbs in for darn near two years, no issues whatsoever.
With no set schedule, (RR'er) I often go to work, or come home form work, during the night time hours.

Guy at work just picked up a new Ram truck. Middle of the night, when we got off work, so we took them out to a 2 lane, country black top. Parked, side by side, I turned off my headlights. We marked the visible areas. Turned off his , turned on mine and he flipped. Same Ram Express models, his was just a 2016.

Funniest part, he is now like a man who just found Jesus. Every single guy, at work, who buys a new Ram, he is telling about this Headlight Mod.

This is one of the best mods a RAM owner can do, for themselves. Cheap and the difference in light output is nothing short of amazing.

 

[Potatonuts]

Appreciate the info kelaog. I've a 16 w quads and I'll be doing the H9/9011 swap.

Did it last night. Filled more of the sides and swales of the road than the factory h11/9005 setup. Definitely safer driving on these unlighted two lane highways.
FYI, my 2016 2500 wheel well access doors were just flex latched. No fasteners. Also, I didn't need to take off the grille but it was a little easier because I did.
Broke one lower fastener, ill get one soon enough

 

[sy5adm1n]

Thanks to kelaog. Just did this mod this afternoon. Finding 9011 bulbs was the hardest part other than the 6" bolts where 3" would have done the job on the lower headlight attachment. I won't say amazing, but I will say that is the best you are going to get with these quad headlights. I am no longer over running the high beams now and it reaches out a ton better than the 9005 bulbs. This mod is worth the time if you aren't going LED or HIDs.